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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    I was thinking a more useful version of old benefic.

    Change the Stoneskin passive to something like "One with Earth"
    Casting Stone, Stone II, or Stone III have a 15% chance to reduce the cast time to instant and the MP cost to 0.

    To "pure" healers, this would be an unnecessary buff. To DPS aggressive WHM, this could be a game changer I feel.
    WHM does need that sort of buff. WHMs that are constantly rotating through cleric barely get freecure/overcure procs making the whole free/overcure mp management completely moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llynd View Post
    Loooooooooool, is that a troll ? Maybe you want a fairy with that ? Or a Critlo. Seriously, sch is THE DPS healer. It's not Whm's role to dps you know.
    No I'm not trolling and I don't want a fairy or Crit Adlos. Thats Scholar's thing. But since you want to bring it up... Since we can't use Scholar abilities because "Looooool, I'm trolling." How about you take Clerics and Protect off of your hotbar? Those are white Mage abilities and you wouldn't be shit without them.

    Putting Stoneskin 2 on a proc from whatever ability won't take shit away from Scholars or Astros.

    My Bane and PoM ideas were just that, ideas. They're open to discussion and I hope something to my original idea actually happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gehrtalert View Post
    Putting Stoneskin 2 on a proc from whatever ability won't take shit away from Scholars or Astros.

    My Bane and PoM ideas were just that, ideas. They're open to discussion and I hope something to my original idea actually happens.
    i don't want to be turned into a shield-healer. instead of bane we have aero 3, holy and assize, that's our aoe-dps toolkit, we don't need to spread our DoTs. PoM is our strongest cd, and i don't want to waste my best oh shit button for some party buff... but don't get me wrong: a haste skill to buff the party would be nice.

    we need new stuff wich fits the WHM playstyle, not overhaul the old skills and turn the class into something different.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i don't want to be turned into a shield-healer. instead of bane we have aero 3, holy and assize, that's our aoe-dps toolkit, we don't need to spread our DoTs. PoM is our strongest cd, and i don't want to waste my best oh shit button for some party buff... but don't get me wrong: a haste skill to buff the party would be nice.

    we need new stuff wich fits the WHM playstyle, not overhaul the old skills and turn the class into something different.
    The Stoneskin 2 proc wouldn't turn us into shield-healers. Stoneskin doesn't even heal.
    I agree we don't need a Bane-like ability. I love it on Scholar and would love to always have it. I like the burst dps we give and understand that Bane would change that up some.
    PoM is awesome. It would be even better if everyone else got in on the buff.

    I don't think enhancing our existing skills would change our play style. I certainly don't want to change the feel of WHM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gehrtalert View Post
    No I'm not trolling and I don't want a fairy or Crit Adlos. Thats Scholar's thing. But since you want to bring it up... Since we can't use Scholar abilities because "Looooool, I'm trolling." How about you take Clerics and Protect off of your hotbar? Those are white Mage abilities and you wouldn't be shit without them.

    Putting Stoneskin 2 on a proc from whatever ability won't take shit away from Scholars or Astros.

    My Bane and PoM ideas were just that, ideas. They're open to discussion and I hope something to my original idea actually happens.
    Actually i feel like each healers should have their " cleric stance" so it would be more easy to determinate each one dps.
    But yeah I'm not really okay with the idea of buffing Whm's personnal dps... But yeah why not a buff increasing everyone's main stat by 5% for 15 sec ? ( that's a serious idea)
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llynd View Post
    But yeah why not a buff increasing everyone's main stat by 5% for 15 sec ?
    I've honestly tried 4 times at different times to reply at this seriously but i can't. I always start laughing at the idea of someone actually thinking buffing sch is a good idea.
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    I can't take these people seriously. :L They literally want Astro's Balance without the RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    I can't take these people seriously. :L They literally want Astro's Balance without the RNG.
    The pull has no RNG. 10%, compounded with optimal rotations and buffs. ;p (~2%++)

    That's more than Selene can bring in a 10 minute fight. (~1.5%+-)

    Just wanted to point that out. I don't want WHM to become a buffer either. They have so much personal potential, lacking only MP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    I've honestly tried 4 times at different times to reply at this seriously but i can't. I always start laughing at the idea of someone actually thinking buffing sch is a good idea.
    I don't know where you've seen i talked about buffing sch ? I'm Just proposing stuff, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llynd View Post
    I don't know where you've seen i talked about buffing sch ? I'm Just proposing stuff, you know.
    Ok so you're talking of everybody but not scholars?
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