Would WHM be too strong with some support utility?

[Brightshadow]

Easy fix for white Mage is to simply buff their heals to the same potency as ast, and give their cleric stance a trait so that it transforms x% damage into a heal for the target with the lowest HP. And yes I know whm would have more potency thanks to mind raid bonus so just make ast bonus based on stance and voila problem fixed. Whm has their unique utility DPS while ast has their cards

[Rawrz]

Easy fix for white Mage is to simply buff their heals to the same potency as ast, and give their cleric stance a trait so that it transforms x% damage into a heal for the target with the lowest HP. And yes I know whm would have more potency thanks to mind raid bonus so just make ast bonus based on stance and voila problem fixed. Whm has their unique utility DPS while ast has their cards

Whn struggles for off heal mp, not dps.

[Tint]

Easy fix for white Mage is to simply buff their heals to the same potency as ast, and give their cleric stance a trait so that it transforms x% damage into a heal for the target with the lowest HP. And yes I know whm would have more potency thanks to mind raid bonus so just make ast bonus based on stance and voila problem fixed. Whm has their unique utility DPS while ast has their cards

WHM already has the same potencys as AST, because AST was buffed. WHM should have higher potencys.

your idea for cleric stance... just nope. just spamming attack spells and the healing works automaticly? there is a reason i don't play SCH.

and nobody cares for the mind bonus because of healing. this mind bonus is actually the best utility a whm can offer at the moment: increasing the dps of himself and his co-heal.

[myahele]

It would be nice if in 4.0 WHM will have at least 1 utility spell. I am thinking something like a dmg/atk boosting spell (like what we see the WHM use in a cutscene) but make it have a long-ish cool down.

As it stands WHM offers nothing but burst/ HoT healing ... which is fine and all but AST offers that as well as the occasional buff. SCH also now can burst heal with it's new abilities in 3.0 (albeit it's not constant like WHM or AST) AND they can reliably boost the parties atk speed for 30s every 1m

Making Stoneskin 2 available in combat will be nice. With it's cast time + MP cost, it can't be spammed. At the very least make stoneskin trait reduce MP cost rather than what we have right now

[gehrtalert]

I've been saying it for a while...
Give Stoneskin an in-battle proc, off of whatever ability(an overcure proc, Crit cure whatever, random Stoneskin) that gives an in-combat Stoneskin 2 use. It would easy to develop for SE and it would be great to have in game. Easy fix for everyone.

As for offensive buffs...
Give WHM an ability like Bane. Give us the ability to spread our DoTs instantly. Aero 1 and 2 would be so much better if they didn't have to waste so many CDs to put on a group of mobs.
As for party wide dps buffs, maybe give PoM a party wide AoE affect like Medica 2. Maybe give Asylum or one of the other insta-cast abilities a buff with it.

As for the OP, no, WHM wouldn't be too strong with more party-wide support.

[Llynd]

I've been saying it for a while...
Give Stoneskin an in-battle proc, off of whatever ability(an overcure proc, Crit cure whatever, random Stoneskin) that gives an in-combat Stoneskin 2 use. It would easy to develop for SE and it would be great to have in game. Easy fix for everyone.

As for offensive buffs...
Give WHM an ability like Bane. Give us the ability to spread our DoTs instantly. Aero 1 and 2 would be so much better if they didn't have to waste so many CDs to put on a group of mobs.
As for party wide dps buffs, maybe give PoM a party wide AoE affect like Medica 2. Maybe give Asylum or one of the other insta-cast abilities a buff with it.

As for the OP, no, WHM wouldn't be too strong with more party-wide support.

Loooooooooool, is that a troll ? Maybe you want a fairy with that ? Or a Critlo. Seriously, sch is THE DPS healer. It's not Whm's role to dps you know.

[Kabzy]

Loooooooooool, is that a troll ? Maybe you want a fairy with that ? Or a Critlo. Seriously, sch is THE DPS healer. It's not Whm's role to dps you know.

SCHs only DPS because they can maintain it, otherwise WHM brings the highest burst DPS of the three. A main healer may not DPS that much, but there are always times when they can contribute. Burst heals and personal DPS are the only thing that WHM actually have over AST at the moment, so it's not completely out of line wanting buffs in that area.

I don't particularly agree with gehrtalert's buff suggestions, but all healers are diverse enough to see buffs in various aspects of their toolkits. WHM is a main healer, but with your mindset they should only ever get a buff in healing, and to be honest that's really not the issue with WHM atm.

[gehrtalert]

Loooooooooool, is that a troll ? Maybe you want a fairy with that ? Or a Critlo. Seriously, sch is THE DPS healer. It's not Whm's role to dps you know.

No I'm not trolling and I don't want a fairy or Crit Adlos. Thats Scholar's thing. But since you want to bring it up... Since we can't use Scholar abilities because "Looooool, I'm trolling." How about you take Clerics and Protect off of your hotbar? Those are white Mage abilities and you wouldn't be shit without them.

Putting Stoneskin 2 on a proc from whatever ability won't take shit away from Scholars or Astros.

My Bane and PoM ideas were just that, ideas. They're open to discussion and I hope something to my original idea actually happens.

[Tint]

Putting Stoneskin 2 on a proc from whatever ability won't take shit away from Scholars or Astros.

My Bane and PoM ideas were just that, ideas. They're open to discussion and I hope something to my original idea actually happens.

i don't want to be turned into a shield-healer. instead of bane we have aero 3, holy and assize, that's our aoe-dps toolkit, we don't need to spread our DoTs. PoM is our strongest cd, and i don't want to waste my best oh shit button for some party buff... but don't get me wrong: a haste skill to buff the party would be nice.

we need new stuff wich fits the WHM playstyle, not overhaul the old skills and turn the class into something different.

[gehrtalert]

i don't want to be turned into a shield-healer. instead of bane we have aero 3, holy and assize, that's our aoe-dps toolkit, we don't need to spread our DoTs. PoM is our strongest cd, and i don't want to waste my best oh shit button for some party buff... but don't get me wrong: a haste skill to buff the party would be nice.

we need new stuff wich fits the WHM playstyle, not overhaul the old skills and turn the class into something different.

The Stoneskin 2 proc wouldn't turn us into shield-healers. Stoneskin doesn't even heal.
I agree we don't need a Bane-like ability. I love it on Scholar and would love to always have it. I like the burst dps we give and understand that Bane would change that up some.
PoM is awesome. It would be even better if everyone else got in on the buff.

I don't think enhancing our existing skills would change our play style. I certainly don't want to change the feel of WHM.