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Thread: Why No Melds?

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    I couldn't stop laughing after reading this because it automatically translated into "So you pay me and you do my work for me???? What kind of fairy-tale is this?!?!?"

    But to be more towards your point, everyone will always carry someone regardless. No one is ever going to have the same level of gear and/or care nor can you convince them to. Even if we could get everyone to meld every piece of gear they find, someone will still be carrying because there will still be people with lower ilvls. As someone mentioned earlier, its less about your actual gear and more about knowing mechanics because I don't know if anyone ever knew this or not, but you can't DPS when you're dead. People could easily find information on raids when they have been out for a while (even within the week of their first iteration) but they still don't and that only cost them time (this sounds like a good topic for a new thread "Why don't some people research fights before trying to do them?").
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    Last edited by KitingGenbu; 10-09-2016 at 12:37 AM.

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    No point in melding on gear until it gets upgraded. By time gear is upgraded new gear comes out with better stats anyway. Or new gear comes out where melding won't have any big effect anyway because the stats on it are complete garbage to begin with.

    Self fulfilling prophecy of materia ultimately not mattering.

    May as well sell it and use it on glamour.

    *shrug*

    Lose all delusions of control.
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    I always meld everything even if it gets replaced fast because i simply cant stand seeing those empty slots in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    I'm also amused people keep saying "tier 4 is free, you get them from beast tribes", completely ignoring the incredible amount of time it takes to even rank up beasttribes in the first place.
    I have not even one of the ARR tribes ranked up (except for Ixal, which are a bit special since they are for crafters/gatherers) so I get absolutely no "free" materia at all.
    Even if I started ranking them up now, I can raise one by 15 points per day. 15 out of 150. That's already half a month just to reach rank 2 on ONE tribe, assuming I can play everyday.
    Not even starting on how long it will take to reach a rank on which their daily quests reward tokens/materia
    And that is assuming I want to do said content at all

    NOTHING in this game is free.
    I'm in the same boat, no arr tribe leveled so tier 4 are not free
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    With that philosophy then there's no reason to buy better gear at all. Who needs scripture weapons and gear? All it does is make the mobs die a few seconds faster...
    Totally not the same concept as other have pointed out in their posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    In short, not only these caring players have to carry the greedy ones[...]
    If 32,4 main stat worth of stats is called "carrying", what do you say to black mages who don't priorize spell speed? A full loadoud of IV materia is worth about 162 secondaries tops, which have a main stat weight of around 0.2. That is the same difference as between spell speed (0.4) and the next highest secondary (Crit, 0.2) for black mages.

    I got baaad news for you black mages: If you have 162 spell speed less on your gear than you could with the same INT, you are getting carried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    If 32,4 main stat worth of stats is called "carrying", what do you say to black mages who don't priorize spell speed? A full loadoud of IV materia is worth about 162 secondaries tops, which have a main stat weight of around 0.2. That is the same difference as between spell speed (0.4) and the next highest secondary (Crit, 0.2) for black mages.

    I got baaad news for you black mages: If you have 162 spell speed less on your gear than you could with the same INT, you are getting carried.
    Let's be realistic, the people who buy Grade IV are usually the ones trying to overmeld crafted gear. They are also generally more willing to use food buffs and stat potions. They are usually players who care about their performances in combat, doing researches about rotations, openers and overall combat mechanics.
    Whereas in this thread, you have a bunch of people who don't give a f**k, thinking that their gils are more important than improving the chances to beat an encounter for their party. Will they use food? Heck no. Wasted gils! Will they use stat pots? Heck no. Wasted gils! Will they take the time to improve their gameplay? Why doing so, they can already clear fights doing whatever!

    Out of these two types of people, who do you think are the more likely to be on top of the other? Generally speaking. I don't care about special snowflakes.
    (It's a rhetorical question, you don't need to answer it.)

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    To the greedy people who are now trying to find excuses such as "B... But I don't have beast tribes leveled up!". Others in this thread already suggested Palace of the Dead. The only "cost" is 2-3 hours of your time for at least one Grade V that you can sell to buy a handful of Grade IV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    [...]thinking that their gils are more important than improving the chances to beat an encounter for their party.
    These people are also not participating in Savage content. The only content these people are participating in where the probability to fail at all is greater than zero are Alexander and Sophia normal.

    I'm not sure what game you are playing, but in my FFXIV, I can spend 90% of an expert dungeon in cleric stance because nobody even needs a heal for the most part. I can only use half my rotation and still easily beat DPS checks. If that is different in your version of the game and you need those 162 substats to considerably boost clear rates, well...sucks to be you I guess? You have my sincere pity. It's not the same in my game and consequently, I don't value those stats as highly.
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    Why not form a party of like-minded individuals with full melded gear to run theses dungeons and trials with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Totally not the same concept as other have pointed out in their posts.
    It is the same thing, though. You're keeping yourself at a minimal chance for success and leaving wipes as a more likely outcome by unmelding. You might as well be at the bare minimum ilvl.
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