ilvl275 weapons have the WORST stats EVER for a final raid tier..

[Teraluna]

Bragging rights. If you're a top tier raider you should be able to look it.

Apparently they like to get their weapons out and stroke them lovingly.....brings a warm feeling.....apparently.

[Ash_]

Nin got an awesome raid weapon for once. The shire weapon on the other hand.... it's clear the lore weapon was a misclick on SE's part, we'll never get so lucky ever again u_u

[Reynhart]

Considering you receive them from wining the hardest challenge and will be replaced by buyable gear in the next expansion, they could have 0 in all stats and just be named "I-beat-Alex-Savage-and-all-I-got-was-this-crappy-weapon" and have the same relevance.

[ShaneDawn]

Bard Bow SkS/Det, so awful.

Ninja Daggers are critdet at least.

[Sparktacus]

This is the last tier before the expansion. Who cares if relic is BiS or not... Now the relic is i240, the Alex weapon is i275...
BiS weapon will be garbage once we will reach lvl 65 (assuming the same as 2.5->3.0)...

This has nothing to do with the discussion.

Yoshi-P has never said anything about wanting raid weapons to always be better than the Relic/Anima Weapons. What was has been said was that the i210 step of the relic step was incredibly time consuming because they made the weapons equal in ilevel to the Unweathered Artifact weapons and Gordian weapons and they overtuned Gordias. Yoshi-P was basically saying that they made multiple mistakes in the first patch cycle about weapon availability.

Anima weapons will likely end up as i275 in 3.55/3.58 to incentivize completion of them rather than have players settle for the much easier to get (likely) i265 Zurvan weapons or the i270 Augmented Shire weapons.

If this were true relics during Midas era would have been 245. And I have heard differently about what Yoshi said, though without a source its all just anecdotal.

Yoshi didn't want Braves being as strong as raid gear either. And yet both ended up at i135 at the end. So far 3.0 has been an almost paint-by-numbers sequel to 2.0, which is why the predictions for an i275 final step to the relic is likely.

I already said a few times that as far as I know he [Yoshi] did not want a repeat of this.

[Aquaslash]

I feel like it would be a slap in the face for the Zeta 2.0 to be anything less than 275 at this point. The road to it thus far has been fraught with suffering, especially if you did each step while it was fresh. You already know the final step is gonna be absurd.

That said, if it somehow caps out at 270, then I'll settle for being the Second Best Like No One Ever Was. I've been spoiled by high crit builds, there's no turning back now

[Cherub]

because the WD and main stat is better than the secondary stats.

Apparently the BLM 270 weapon is about 1% stronger than the 275Alex weapon. So no, WD and main stat aren't alwaye better. Majority of the time, yes. But not always.

[Felis]

What's the point of having the strongest weapon if you already beat the hardest content to get it?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...tyPlusOneSword

To have a strong weapon at hand for the next raid patch.

[frostfirefawcett]

because the WD and main stat is better than the secondary stats.

Except for the fact that the Black Mage and Dark Knight's(although by very little) i270 Scripture weapons are going to be BiS over the Alexandrian weapons.

[Dualgunner]

To have a strong weapon at hand for the next raid patch.

What next raid patch? This is the last one of the expac.

Not to mention a lot of people are complaining that 240 gear *is* good enough to clobber Creator with. And Gordias gear couldn't touch Midas Savage with a 10 foot pole iirc.

I already said a few times that as far as I know he [Yoshi] did not want a repeat of this.

It's more accurate to say that you repeated multiple times Yoshi did not want this, and at no point stated or cited him saying he doesn't want a repeat. I even went and looked at all your posts in the thread for ya (that I could find in five sleepy minutes)

We don't know final relic will be 275, I mentioned it already but Yoshi does not want relics to be as powerful as final tier weapons which is why relic was 240 and Midan was 245.

Since they don't want relic to ever be as powerful as final tier raid weapons , per Yoshi, they should give the ability to customize the final alex weapons however we want.

Now, onto this:

If this were true relics during Midas era would have been 245. And I have heard differently about what Yoshi said, though without a source its all just anecdotal..

The relic Braves didn't catch up to the raid gear till the final tier (135) either, and until then Relic was consistently behind.