Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[HyoMinPark]

helpfulness~

Thank you. This is exactly how I thought the fight worked, with B to the left, C to the right, and A north. I even said that to the other person and essentially got a long spill about how they've been playing for years, blah blah, all 24-mans are done A-B-C not B-A-C, blah blah. I didn't see the issue considering the adds were downed each time very quickly and we literally had no deaths in any of the alliances at all that run. But thank you. ^^

[Pells]

So. Serious question here: final boss Echidna in VA.

When she splits, how do the adds usually go?

Whenever I run it, I notice that A tends to go north, B left, and C right.

----A----
B-------C

I've even had runs where people put the waymakers down this way. Anyways, last night, I'm running it because the game-hubby wanted to run it, and we're double healing it. We're Alliance A, and we were on point. Anyways, after the first add split, I notice Sinister is tethered to Echidna, but the tank drags him to the left. No big. We downed them, she does her flashy explosion, we start attacking her again, when B shouts about A needing to position their add correctly.

Now, I watched her split again, and Echidna was pointing north. I'm not sure if it was because our tank was running north, or if that's how she naturally splits, but I've never done VA differently? And we had zero issues. I understand other 24-mans do A-B-C, and it makes sense, but...

Anyways, clarification would be much appreciated. ^^

And sorry if this is kind of a derpy question. I'm like super tired, but...^^;;;

When she splits, Echidna always goes to group A, Dexter (the right hand snake) goes to group B, and Sinister (left hand) goes to group C. They go to the tanks if they're alive; I'm not sure who it picks if the tank happens to be dead.

It doesn't matter where the markers are. They go to the targeted player. If the players are standing too close, then the parts are tethered together and you get negative mechanics. If two tanks both head to the same point, one of them has to move. Preferably both since that will separate the parts fastest.

As for who is supposed to go where, it doesn't matter as long as everybody uses the same plan. If there's no marker, it should be stated beforehand. If there's a marker, and a tank sticks to their own plan, it's on them.

Personally, I find ABC is simplest since all the other fights in the 24 man raids are also divided this way. BAC is only desirable if you want to keep the right hand snake on the right--there is no reason for it beyond aesthetics.

[Crysten]

As for who is supposed to go where, it doesn't matter as long as everybody uses the same plan. If there's no marker, it should be stated beforehand. If there's a marker, and a tank sticks to their own plan, it's on them.

Actually, yes it does.

If B and C go together, the two snakes, while not tethered, will have damage reduction (usually 3 stacks worth) because of their proximity.

While redundant in the grand scheme of things because of how faceroll the content is now, the snakes should be on opposite sides to minimize stacks and make sure they die quickly.

They're exactly the same as Garuda and her adds.

[Fluestergras]

Did you know the boss in A12 eventually casts a second Judgment Protocol if the DPS sucks? Well, thanks to this dragoon who did like 600 DPS, I do know now

[Heliantheae]

Did you know the boss in A12 eventually casts a second Judgment Protocol if the DPS sucks? Well, thanks to this dragoon who did like 600 DPS, I do know now

Found that out during my first run. He enraged at 7 percent. In our defense five of us were new. All DPS and one tank. The other three taught us the fight and were really patient. After that enrage though a couple other DPS started saying there gear was breaking and bailed. It took me three parties to finally clear it. I even got to play teacher a couple of times. And that clear party was a piece of art. Everything went smooth and we burned him down so fast I only saw the tethers once.

[Fevelle]

I need to get this off my chest: SOPHIA EX IS SO RAGE INDUCING!!! I've spent 4 hours today trying to clear her, learned all mechanics, seen it multiple times, but I just ~can't~ clear that thing. Multiple people dying to mechanics and leaving me alone, one stray meteor at the freaking middle of the arena killing everyone, tanks not provoking tankbuster, solo-healing a triple-chain of Cintamani, wrong calls on party chat...

This is my first time doing a Primal recently released, but are groups always this hard to deal with? I'm not the most skilled for sure, but WHY THE HELL people get hit by Aero III cast?

[DamianWayne]

So I joined a duty in the duty finder for Stone Vigil.

We had this stuck up Lalafell healer that was like "I've completed this duty like 50 times, I am great at it."

Mans was dying at every boss and couldn't dodge the easy stuff, they also never healed.

So when I was being sarcastic to him, he flipped shit and blamed me for the losses, when I was the last one alive throughout every loss.

And then he tried to critique our correct playing with minor details that weren't relevant or made any difference.

Which made me and my friend laugh for the entire time in our Skype call.

[SilkaN]

I need to get this off my chest: SOPHIA EX IS SO RAGE INDUCING!!! I've spent 4 hours today trying to clear her, learned all mechanics, seen it multiple times, but I just ~can't~ clear that thing. Multiple people dying to mechanics and leaving me alone, one stray meteor at the freaking middle of the arena killing everyone, tanks not provoking tankbuster, solo-healing a triple-chain of Cintamani, wrong calls on party chat...

This is my first time doing a Primal recently released, but are groups always this hard to deal with? I'm not the most skilled for sure, but WHY THE HELL people get hit by Aero III cast?

I'm feeling ya, training parties in RF / PF for this fight are really horrible. I had some friends help me getting a clear and ever since then, my runs have been smooth and easy.

[DelitaHeiral]

I was doing the Trail where you have to stop the dragon from getting to ishgard. The first time we lose and the dragon destroys the city. So someone is like "Do you people even know what your doing" and so I say nope no idea haven't done this one. So no one explains anything and starts the fight again. Who would have guessed, wipe.

So then everyone votes to quit. I then read a guide, realizing this had a lot of mechanics, re-qued and did it on the first try after helping with the canons/snares and the guys are like this is the best run on this I've ever had.

[aesteval]

Did you know the boss in A12 eventually casts a second Judgment Protocol if the DPS sucks? Well, thanks to this dragoon who did like 600 DPS, I do know now

You mean the hard enrage? The first week of content? When people are first learning the fight? When people are closest to minimum ilvl? Yeah, you're going to see enrage at times. It's not that big of a deal. Give people time to learn the fight before you start crying low DPS.