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  1. #251
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    Razard's Avatar
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    No, we just remember how the """"hardcore raiders""" got thoroughly exposed the last time the pulled this "too easy" crap. How it very nearly murdered the raiding scene. How there where mass exodus' from servers to get statics to run content. Other statics breaking up left and right due to the stress of the fights. They cried it was too harrrrrrd pls nerf.

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. No one wants a repeat of Gordias.
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  2. #252
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    They don't get that there are people who were clearing atleast A6s and there were atleast lets say 15 - 20% of them.
    Uhm...I haaave my doubts about that, considering...
    "As of late October, at least about 50% of players who are actively playing battle classes have completed all four parts of normal Alexander Gordias."
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...3.1-and-Beyond

    That's only normal mode "and" with the restriction to active battle class players (otherwise, the number would be even smaller). 15-20% for "any" Savage encounter seems to be a bit of a stretch considering this...
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  3. #253
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    IllyriaKnotfred's Avatar
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    No, we just remember how the """"hardcore raiders""" got thoroughly exposed the last time the pulled this "too easy" crap. How it very nearly murdered the raiding scene. How there where mass exodus' from servers to get statics to run content. Other statics breaking up left and right due to the stress of the fights. They cried it was too harrrrrrd pls nerf.

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. No one wants a repeat of Gordias.
    And this is the part where a 'certain someone' is going to chime in and go on about how they are so hard done by the fact more than a handful of players are finally getting to have fun engaging content!
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  4. #254
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    IllyriaKnotfred's Avatar
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Uhm...I haaave my doubts about that, considering...
    "As of late October, at least about 50% of players who are actively playing battle classes have completed all four parts of normal Alexander Gordias."
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...3.1-and-Beyond

    That's only normal mode "and" with the restriction to active battle class players (otherwise, the number would be even smaller). 15-20% for "any" Savage encounter seems to be a bit of a stretch considering this...
    Exactly. Pulling numbers out of their ying yang.
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  5. #255
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    Auteur's Avatar
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    Vardy Davout
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
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    Go play Black Desert, Lineage 2, or Archeage if you want to play a game where you can be a part of an exclusive club by grinding 24/7 and dumping a ton of cash in the cash shop; NCSoft and Trion want players like you. Unless you're afraid to put your money where your mouth is (can't compete against other hardcore players in PvP games?).
    (4)

  6. #256
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    Pasquale's Avatar
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    Pasquale Omega
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    No, we just remember how the """"hardcore raiders""" got thoroughly exposed the last time the pulled this "too easy" crap. How it very nearly murdered the raiding scene. How there where mass exodus' from servers to get statics to run content. Other statics breaking up left and right due to the stress of the fights. They cried it was too harrrrrrd pls nerf.

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. No one wants a repeat of Gordias.
    Infact we want a Midas difficult not gordias
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  7. #257
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    Pasquale's Avatar
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    Pasquale Omega
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Auteur View Post
    Go play Black Desert, Lineage 2, or Archeage if you want to play a game where you can be a part of an exclusive club by grinding 24/7 and dumping a ton of cash in the cash shop; NCSoft and Trion want players like you. Unless you're afraid to put your money where your mouth is (can't compete against other hardcore players in PvP games?).
    Nope i want this game like it was 1 week ago and how is it since 1 year
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  8. #258
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    IllyriaKnotfred's Avatar
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post
    Infact we want a Midas difficult not gordias
    Well until a third difficulty is out- you won't be getting it anymore.
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    Last edited by IllyriaKnotfred; 10-02-2016 at 09:10 AM.

  9. #259
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    Pasquale Omega
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    Well until a third difficulty is out- you won't be getting it anymore.
    Well Gordias was Savage / Midas was Savage , they respect the title savage difficult same a scob savage . Creator is called savage but it isn't
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  10. #260
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    Noe Mo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    I remember Yoshi-P mentioning that one of the reasons why they're starting to move in this direction is to encourage more players to jump in the raiding scene

    They dont wanna repeat what happened to Coil back in 2.0 where it mostly catered the 1% which makes sense from a business stand point since if they're gonna cater the 1% thats only roughly 60k (going by 6M players at the moment).
    Take into consideration that theres a portion of those 60 000 that unsubs after their done grinding through content which I assume is pretty quick (judging if you spend 16-20 hrs of your day playing the game.)

    From a devs point of view, its a balancing act for them to cater the needs of many and cater the needs of the 1%. Cant make it too hard that people shy away from it but not "2ez" that it only takes a day for the hardcore peeps to clear.
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