Why is Yoshi P turning his back on the playerbase that loves this game the most?

[Alahra]

I have two zetas. Also there were different ways to obtain Alexandrite. Hunts, maps, daily roulette, tomes, fates, etc. Umbrite you can only get via esos. Offering different paths to obtain something ensures that players of all types have a chance to get it with enough effort. That's player friendly, imho.

That's why I said an effective 60,000. While the Eso portion of 240 is somewhat bottlenecked (I even mentioned that I wished there were more avenues for it earlier in the thread in the very post you originally responded to), it's still roughly equivalent to half the effort of Novus overall, and the Crystal Sand portion had numerous ways to get through it (and with no chance for failure it's massively more player friendly than Novus was by a mile).

[ADVSS]

it still was a gross grind, maybe less harsh than the novus step(except that free map for doing expert) and the fact you could spiritbond 5 accessories in 3 or 4 fates in northern thanalan{how we also funded the fc house on the old server at that time}.
Either way semantics are semantics, and the only thing left for the anima now is lights. Its about time they make us use the weapon we are upgrading in order to upgrade it. Which you know is probably coming, because we have to have more of the same. forever.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Well designed? I’m sorry but when the producer of the game admits outright that he doesn’t even want to do a portion of the relic quest it doesn't really sound well designed to me.

Point out where he said it, for I am not fluent in Japanese.

[LaylaTsarra]

Grinding 24000 esos doesn't scream player friendly to me... And Yoshida is the producer of this game. He needs to make sure everything is somewhat appealing to people. If he can't even convince himself to like it, how does he expect us to pay for it?

I just got my forth 240, one on my alt, and I didn't grind relic until the last week on her account because i wanted it done before patch. Relic has always been an anathema on this forum yet oddly enough in game you see plenty of them and many of my friends are doing more than one.

[SendohJin]

Grinding 24000 esos doesn't scream player friendly to me... And Yoshida is the producer of this game. He needs to make sure everything is somewhat appealing to people. If he can't even convince himself to like it, how does he expect us to pay for it?

I randomly collected my Esos just doing maps and daily roulettes. Didn't grind for it at all except I probably got more first time bonuses helping on Final Steps than I otherwise would have. Way more player friendly than chasing Lights from the 2.x quest which I could not be bothered to do until it got nerfed, repeating Garuda HM over and over just because it was in bonus was just ughhh.

[FizzleofHyperion]

I'm not sure if some of you guys who are looking down on 1.0 players and the ffxi players who had 2 subs really understand the weight of that ARR wouldn't even be possible if it was not for thoese specific months Yoshi P wanted players to continue subbing so money could come in so it would be possible for the whole revamp of 1.0 to ARR. People paid so the game would continue the path of 1.23b as i remember correctly. If that community with thoese subs stopped some of you wouldnt have your Fashion Fantasy 14 aka FFXIV A WoW Clone Reborn.

Some don't seem to see this as such a big deal.
Thoese old subs where what? 30-75k people who continued to pay?
Again not that they are some V.I.P but the weight of actually understanding how important this is if you can't see this clearly then I don't know what to say.

Newer market or not people that paid for something wanted something else out of it. Something that can provide a different envoirment from whats already out there. 1.23b started to really get good if it only had more work imo.

So the feeling of betrayed is still floating in the air. Not saying all of the FFXI 2.0 and 1.0 feel betrayed but there is a portion of this community that feels this way.

This isn't even a rant its just that everyone who has interview Yoshi - P so far never seem to dare to ask alot of these questions I'm still not sure if its because they are scared of burning bridges for future interviews wich means less clicks and views or just currently starstruck by him on some fanboy mode.

For you who have been discussing the relic. There is nothing wrong with getting 24000 eso if the weapon could continue with you and the relic itself wouldn't become so worthless because of how the current state of the game is built. A Relic is supposed to be one of the hardest things to acheive in the FF franchise but Yoshi P made the relic the most casual thing out there when you can just get almost any weapon out there on a equal ilvl. We can't seem to get nice things because of the whole Player B deserves everything Player A has without putting any effort in because they pay for a subscription. I'm pretty sure no one would rage quit because of a relic beeing hard to get because its made something thats very timeconsuming harder to obtain yet more rewarding.
Thats why when I read the answers from Yoshi P about character growth im very aware that his answers are very exagerated.

ps: Three times so far have I seen that people are still using the don't generalize card eventhough I've stated in my starting message of this thread that I'm not do people even read things anymore in these forums or just want to add a message for the sake of it?

[Zensho]

Bring back dynamis to continue new relics in the future lol! =P

[OMG]

I want to play Final Fantasy XIV not Fashion Fantasy 14.

Fashion Fantasy 14? Sign me up!

[SwdVengeance]

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Whatever your opinion may be of XI, 1.0, and 2.0+, the fact you've paid in so much more than someone else does not entitle you to more significance than them. Your subscription is not equivalent to being a share holder. Company's may, and I stress the point of may, give weight to your words more than others. They may also choose not to. Your money, in the strictest business sense, is already in their pockets. You're one of many customers that they have to consider. Did you like Final Fantasy XIII? A lot of your XI subscription money went into that game you know. How about the squeals? How about XV's direction? The anime, movie, and other material? All done with your money you've paid them. Should your opinion of those carry more weight because you're somehow paid more into the SE machine?

In the end, if you really feel that money should carry weight, you really should consider buying SE stock. I don't mean this as jest, it's the quite literal point you're making, you're just applying it to the wrong structure. Invest in the company, then they actually will listen to you, and the more you invest, the more weight your opinion carries. If you want to explicitly make sure your specific voice is heard, this is the way. Otherwise your only other option is to stop subscribing. That also speaks with money and they pay attention to profit margin, I'm sure.

If you wish to keep up this discussion in a particularly constructive way, I would suggest giving some specific feed back here. You've yet to break down issues you have with the development. Give the employees who may chance read this something to actually take back to the table beyond your emotions.

[SheBitez]

Some don't seem to see this as such a big deal.
Thoese old subs where what? 30-75k people who continued to pay?
Again not that they are some V.I.P but the weight of actually understanding how important this is if you can't see this clearly then I don't know what to say.

Funny, I seem to remember 1.0 was F2P for at least the first year. We didnt start paying until the end of it. They didnt make us pay because it was a god awful game. We didnt pay until they added a bit of content which was not for long