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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalvaus View Post
    My initial impression of you, as dictated by my unbias post prior to meeting you, is that you're scum. Worse than any others you claim is bad. Though hopefully such first impressions are wrong and you're simply being misguided.
    You're in the same FC as OP and trying to defend them. The fact that you're lying about being unbiased says all I think most need to know here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Nunh View Post
    You're in the same FC as OP and trying to defend them. The fact that you're lying about being unbiased says all I think most need to know here
    If you reread the post I mentioned:

    "Without knowing who they are or the bias that may give"; I've never spoken with whomever is doing this. This was not a lie. Also, you'll also note that I said that I like to get to know people before judging them. First impressions are fine, but they won't dictate how I feel about people -- everyone here included. Though unlike most, I am trying to get to know the person who posted this. She actually gave me the link and owed up to saying some things before I invited her into my FC. How many of you have actually had an earnest conversation with anyone you have claimed to be bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalvaus View Post
    If you reread the post I mentioned:

    "Without knowing who they are or the bias that may give"; I've never spoken with whomever is doing this. This was not a lie. Also, you'll also note that I said that I like to get to know people before judging them. First impressions are fine, but they won't dictate how I feel about people -- everyone here included. Though unlike most, I am trying to get to know the person who posted this. She actually gave me the link and owed up to saying some things before I invited her into my FC. How many of you have actually had an earnest conversation with anyone you have claimed to be bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalvaus View Post
    If you reread the post I mentioned:

    "Without knowing who they are or the bias that may give"; I've never spoken with whomever is doing this. This was not a lie.
    Truthfully, I'm the same as you and prefer to get to know someone. You're welcome to get to know them all you want, of course, but coming in and trying to defend them while claiming some form of unbiased nature is not the way to do it when you are very clearly biased in the matter at hand. As you mentioned before, it doesn't make you or the people you represent look very good. As I mentioned before, someone can own up to something all they want, but if they continue to act as they always have and show no signs of getting better, then maybe they aren't. Their reputation is going to constantly follow them around until they prove people wrong, and crying/telling half-truths on a forum isn't going to be the way to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Nunh View Post
    Truthfully, I'm the same as you and prefer to get to know someone..
    I'm glad I've met someone who also likes to get to know people before judging them. Though if I don't know someone, I can can neither hate nor like them (or whatever that may bring). You may say it is an error in articulation, and I would respect your opinion on that. Though how can anyone know if someone is improving if they do not give them a chance? If they get a dozen whispers a day, go places and get called names? If people follow them just to get them kicked or ruin what they are trying to do? I'd be jaded, personally. I once had someone steal from me 100,000,000 gold from Ultima Online, back in the day when it was still a lot. Nothing to lose a friendship over. Was still nice to them. Eventually, they paid it back and apologized for being a jerk.

    We need to be the change we preach. Everything has gotten out of hand, as I'm sure you'll agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalvaus View Post
    We need to be the change we preach. Everything has gotten out of hand, as I'm sure you'll agree.
    If they're being whispered, block 'em and move on. As you mentioned, things tend to take time to heal if they will. However, going around and making posts and asking for people to pity them will just make it worse. Not only does it show that they haven't changed or taken steps to try to change, it just proves that the other person was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalvaus View Post
    How many of you have actually had an earnest conversation with anyone you have claimed to be bad?
    You sure we looked at the same link? Because my attempt at an "earnest conversation" with her led to some weird hate speech about feminism/women, being called "snarky" for not taking her abuse and false ERP accusations lying down, and then being blocked and kicked from her linkshell and Discord a moment before my friend, who had done nothing, was then also kicked simply for associating with me, only for her to have her friend share my RL photo and for her to threaten to call the police on me if I continued telling the truth, and then to continue to misrepresent the situation to everyone she meets and play the victim. That is what an attempt at "earnest conversation" with her got me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-chan View Post
    You sure we looked at the same link? Because my attempt at an "earnest conversation" with her led to some weird hate speech about feminism/women, being called "snarky" for not taking her abuse and false ERP accusations lying down, and then being blocked and kicked from her linkshell and Discord a moment before my friend, who had done nothing, was then also kicked simply for associating with me, only for her to have her friend share my RL photo and for her to threaten to call the police on me if I continued telling the truth, and then to continue to misrepresent the situation to everyone she meets and play the victim. That is what an attempt at "earnest conversation" with her got me.
    well the police wont do anything to you unless theres prove of actual malicious intent and stuff. Personally i would just ignore it, and tell people in advance that this might come up if you get a new fc or LS or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    well the police wont do anything to you unless theres prove of actual malicious intent and stuff. Personally i would just ignore it, and tell people in advance that this might come up if you get a new fc or LS or something.
    Oh, I'm not worried about the police. I haven't threatened her in the slightest, doxxed her, "hacked" her, or anything of the like. If anything, I'm more worried she'll get herself in trouble if she ever does actually contact the authorities, but maybe that's a wake up call she needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    well the police wont do anything to you unless theres prove of actual malicious intent and stuff. Personally i would just ignore it, and tell people in advance that this might come up if you get a new fc or LS or something.
    There's nothing the police could do in this case. If someone was actually searching for her IRL or trying to spread her personal information around with malicious intent, then yeah. As it stands, nothing illegal is being done and I'm sure she would be the one in trouble should she bother the police with something like "the people on the internet are being mean to me."

    I don't mean for that to sound as funny as it does, but... well. It's kind of what the claim would be.
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