Problems with the strength of gear coming from easy mode Alexander

[Balipu]

But, considering that new raids (which require a higher ilv) will come in few months, why would people stop caring for their gear in the current patch? Wouldn't they want to obtain the best gear just to be ready for the next challenge?

What's more, glamour or items you simply use for showing off purposes are important for most players in every game I've seen. Exclusive items that prove that you've done this or that content are a must, and this game has them.

Hardcore raiders are a bit like Mandalorians. When rats eat the food in a Mandalorian settlement, they don't kill the rats cause they are weak vermin that don't provide much sport. Of course they starve to death cause all their food is gone, but at least they are true warriors.
People who can and actually do clear Savage raids, do not want to spend too much time doing dungeons and hard mode trials, because those are too easy. Considering they have the highest item level possible, this is not a surprise.

If I understand correctly, what they don't like is the fact that you can get gear just as good as the top raid gear from tomestones when the next patch comes. And tomestones can be farmed by doing non-raid content.
What they want is for gear from Savage raids to remain the very best gear you can get, for a longer period of time. Guessing that would mean half a year cause every second content patch comes with a new Savage raid. They want something with more practical uses than titles and pets to show for clearing what is at that time, the hardest content in the game.
Of course the way I see it, making raids in general and savage in particular, harder would work just as well. Darnus still isn't a faceroll even with an undersized party cause the meteor phase can still wipe you like five different times if you don't pay attention. Even on normal. Making savage truly savage would make sure the reward stays exclusive, whatever it may be.

[Tint]

If I understand correctly [...]

no, you also don't understand it.

the problem is not that people can get gear with the SAME ilvl as the raid gear, the problem is people (including the raiders themself) can get gear with a BETTER ilvl than the raid gear right on patchday.

this makes farming the raid for gear useless.

[Clover_Blake]

the problem is not that people can get gear with the SAME ilvl as the raid gear, the problem is people (including the raiders themself) can get gear with a BETTER ilvl than the raid gear right on patchday.

this makes farming the raid for gear useless.

Um, I see, so the problem is about this case in particular, of 3.4 crafted gear being too powerful. I thought it was a general complaint of how the current ilv gear doesn't last "much" (not like half a year is little time though).

In any case, is it really that easy for a whole static to obtain full crafted i250 sets the very first day? I still find i240 relevant, for it's the best way to farm for the new i250 sets outside of spending a huge fortune that not everyone possess, as well as doing the new EX primal. Replacing the 240 the first day or in a few weeks won't change the fact that this set must still be replaced in 3.4, nor does it change the fact that the previous Savage items have been exclusive and a "status symbol" for half a year, and so will the new ones even if those, too, will be replaced someday. Just my opinion, though, that maybe things aren't as bad as they seem.

[Brannigan]

the previous Savage items have been exclusive and a "status symbol" for half a year

That's the thing. I don't want to waste my time farming every week for a status symbol and some shitty dye patterns. I don't want to throw money away melding that gear for a status symbol. I want to use that gear on the next thing. I don't care if welfare gear catches people up to me instantly even though it took hundreds of wipes to clear the content. I just want to actually use the gear I earned without purposefully gimping myself, which is what you're doing if you don't get the crafted gear.

Yes, groups will enter and clear with their old gear, but if you're not going for a win within a few hours of the server uptime then you're just making things harder for yourself for no reason by doing that.