A thought on dueling

[Jetstream_Fox]

Missing the point. It's not a competitive piece of content, it's just a fun way to pass the time, settle a dispute or just beat up your friends. It's not supposed to be balanced.

So that means it's groundless content? Your second suggestion "settle a dispute" can't even be obtained if the fights aren't balanced. This addition alone had the potential to add a great mix to the game, even possibly have player created tournaments and could have helped bolster the near dead PvP in this game. But without balance even fighting friends for laughs or killing time isn't going to be enjoyable when the Tank is just gonna pop invulnerability and wale on you for a easy vicious victory.

[Blueberry__]

I would like to see it moved to other areas, instead of traveling to one small area. And the toggle option that was brought up would be nice. So that people who are not into that (fighting anywhere/anytime), can just go about their day without any bother from others looking for one on one PVP fun.

[Masquerade]

I'm not against dueling, but I myself never really saw the appeal to it.
In DC Universe Online dueling was a big deal to a lot of people. It was more for bragging rights than anything else.
Most of it happened in the Hall Of Doom which was the safe-space HQ.
Some duelers would get tricky. If they sent you a duel invite, and you declined, he/she would follow you around tell you started using the broker, bank or mailbox and then send the invite again, with the hopes that you will accidentally hit accept while you are distracted thinking you are clicking on something in your bank or w/e.

I never partook. Kept my game settings to an automatic ignore dueling invites. When reading the chatbox, the same people who were always in there doing nothing but dueling, seemed to be keeping a list of who they have fought and beat. So every now and then I would get followed around and taunted by someone trying to get me to duel them. My level was maxed, good gear, good mods, lot of Achievement Points. If they ever raided with me they knew I almost always topped the DPS chart. Taunting just never really got me heated. If anything I thought it was funny. Lot of conversations went like...

Dueler: Why won't you duel me? You scared?
Me: Terrified.
Dueler: Thought so, Because you know I will win.
Me: I know you will. I'm thinking about switching to World Of Warcraft just so I don't run into you again. Your just too strong.
Dueler: Your a noob.
Me: Even less. I am more of "noo" iv not even earned the letter "b" at the end of the word yet.

lol it really annoyed them they could not scratch my name off their victory list. And by instead of me getting upset by their taunts, I was laughing at them. So by not dueling, I was winning. XD

[Seoulstar]

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In terms of lore. You could always look at it as a "what if" situation. Like it's not cannon. Take overwatch for example, the matches in that game are not cannon. More like a what if this happened type scenario.

[Kurogaea]

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Community is toxic yet you call them comrades. Sure. Options are nice. Don't like that PvP, fine, stay out. Having PvP this way opens for less straight line on-rails content. Players would have something to do other than group with 8 people and practice a routined dance to bring down a boss "raid". Wouldn't fit into lore. Thats getting old, and the answer still stands, lore is easily manipulated. Adventurers are allowed to beat other adventurers in the name of their FC in a open-area supervised by the grand companies to see who will own the land or be the most famous group or player. FC wars would be the best thing honestly.

I know you just didn't recommend battle dice.... Your playing a final fantasy game and you wanna...Yeah no, I'm not goin there.

[RubyCirha]

I kinda feel like them adding the dual grounds to the wolves den is a wasted opertunity to use the coliseum in uldah

[MistyMew]

If and only if they simultaneously added the ability to auto-reject and hide any requests for it, I would not be upset if they started allowing duels outside of the Wolf's Den. Thanks to WoW, and more specifically Goldshire, the ability to request a duel anywhere (and repeatedly) is not something I want to see here but I know people do and if I'm allowed to opt out, hey, that's fine with me.

1000x this ^

I think if it was introduced, if not in a specific area of cities only, then cities should not be a part of the feature...anywhere except cities. ppl spamming abilities over and over now just "because" is annoying enough, I can only imagine the noise spamming if they could actually duel on top of everyone at the mb....

Nothing against the concept, just ensure option to include 1. auto reject requests + 2. don't make it annoying for those in the cities crafting/chilling/sending out retainers etc. Oo

[Griffey]

So that means it's groundless content?

Well yes, this is why there is no reward for it. Not every piece of content n this game requires some form of progression to be fun and duels in particular are not meant to be taken seriously. If you play against a tank who just pops invincibility then find ways around it, you know, like you would in team PvP?

If they did try and make it competitive then they would have to balance every single job for 1 on 1. Considering Yoshi-P is actively looking for more developers to help with raid content I would rather they spent their time and resources on PvE.

Personally I hope we can use DoH classes and see who can batter the other one to death with a frying pan first.

[Zojha]

If you play against a tank who just pops invincibility then find ways around it, you know, like you would in team PvP?

-snickers-
"Tank pops invincibiliy"
"DPS goes off to kill an innocent bystander DoH instead"
"DPS claims to have won the duel"

[Sicno]

So that means it's groundless content? Your second suggestion "settle a dispute" can't even be obtained if the fights aren't balanced. This addition alone had the potential to add a great mix to the game, even possibly have player created tournaments and could have helped bolster the near dead PvP in this game. But without balance even fighting friends for laughs or killing time isn't going to be enjoyable when the Tank is just gonna pop invulnerability and wale on you for a easy vicious victory.

They added this duel mode because people insisted and insisted and insisted that they wanted it. Devs said over and over again that 1v1 pvp wouldn't be balanced in any way, people said they didn't care and that they just wanted the means to engage in 1v1 battles for different personal reasons (usually "for fun"). What we're getting is exactly what was asked for by the community, nothing else. That's why this was NEVER meant to be competitive. You can't gauge this the same way as other content in the game. And I welcome this addition for what it is.