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    Cure III, Assize, Asylum, Benediction.
    It's like some people in this thread forgot that these skills still exist and are the reason why WHM remains a superior healer able to answer to more situations than the AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Cure III, Assize, Asylum, Benediction.
    It's like some people in this thread forgot that these skills still exist and are the reason why WHM remains a superior healer able to answer to more situations than the AST.
    And Divine Seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    And Divine Seal.
    ASTs just shit all over Divine Seal now though with 30 second Synastry, not to mention absolutely disgusting MP regeneration and mobility healing. And all the extra HPS output WHM has doesn't count the fact there's only so much HPS in a given fight to do, and that the devs have already confirmed this tier of raid being easier than Gordias or Midas. Unless their way of making things easier is making constant and spike AoE damage that a AST and SCH can't handle with Indomitability, Emergency, Light speed and Whispering Dawn, I don't see how WHM can't compete with the sheer quantity of utility and mitigation an AST/SCH composition will bring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    ASTs just shit all over Divine Seal now though with 30 second Synastry, not to mention absolutely disgusting MP regeneration and mobility healing. And all the extra HPS output WHM has doesn't count the fact there's only so much HPS in a given fight to do, and that the devs have already confirmed this tier of raid being easier than Gordias or Midas. Unless their way of making things easier is making constant and spike AoE damage that a AST and SCH can't handle with Indomitability, Emergency, Light speed and Whispering Dawn, I don't see how WHM can't compete with the sheer quantity of utility and mitigation an AST/SCH composition will bring.
    Divine Seal also comes up much quicker and is better for AoE healing, which as the main healer, is probably a good point.

    Also just because a fight is easier doesn't necessarily mean the damage level will go down sharply. It can also mean more lax mechanics via less instant wipe or laxer dps checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Cure III, Assize, Asylum, Benediction.
    It's like some people in this thread forgot that these skills still exist and are the reason why WHM remains a superior healer able to answer to more situations than the AST.
    Assize is fantastic.
    Cure III is seeing quite a bit of action in HW and is a very welcome skill.

    But ill need to disagree with the other 2.

    Benediction is the worst insta-heal. Once the potency is large enough for a save, its all about the accessibility. Benediction is easily outclassed by ED and lustrate, and I'd rather have CU or SS over Asylum.

    At the end of the day though most WHM skills and the playstyle are very similar. Stat differences are the biggest thing separating the two, and this has even been acknowledged by the devs back when AST was terrible:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3128545

    Q16. In regards to the effect of Protect and Stoneskin, can you add some type of advantage, similar to pre-patch 3.0, for white mages?

    A16. As I mentioned previously, we made adjustments to actions that were largely based on stat percentages, and due to this the identity of each job was lost when using these abilities as additional actions. I apologize for this.

    However, to compensate for this, we've added in a great deal of healing power.
    As AST gets buffed, that "great deal of healing power" becomes a little less great, and the WHM identity, a little more lost.
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