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Thread: RIP WHM

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    I just finished my WHM relic. I don't want to play AST.....
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    Cure III, Assize, Asylum, Benediction.
    It's like some people in this thread forgot that these skills still exist and are the reason why WHM remains a superior healer able to answer to more situations than the AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerilon View Post
    Well with the new changes to AST why would any party with a WHM.

    AST "Here have 30+ seconds of raging strikes!"

    WHM "Medica II!"


    RIP
    Lol see the content first before judging. People also forget AST has and will always have the same issue, the cards are useless unless you draw them just when you need them.
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    World first creator clear will still probably have a white mage just because it's way safer in progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    Lol see the content first before judging. People also forget AST has and will always have the same issue, the cards are useless unless you draw them just when you need them.
    There is literally never a time when a balance or arrow is bad.

    Unless like, the boss is in a phase where they are invulnerable. But that's what 'Spread' is for.

    Everything else can be royal road fodder if its drawn at a bad time for no real loss, so that's not really an issue.

    AST's only real problems is it has less throughput than white mage and can't offheal as effectively as scholar.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 09-24-2016 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    World first creator clear will still probably have a white mage just because it's way safer in progression.
    I think WHM/AST might be the safer comp unless there is a part that requires extreme mitigation from something like a crit deploy.

    Other than that, in regards to world first. It could be WHM/SCH just due to the fact that there aren't that many good AST mains in comparison to WHM mains. Unless the top groups have had WHMs that play as good on ASTs that could swap out, then they will be running WHM regardless of whether it's better or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rai_Takara View Post
    I think WHM/AST might be the safer comp unless there is a part that requires extreme mitigation from something like a crit deploy.

    Other than that, in regards to world first. It could be WHM/SCH just due to the fact that there aren't that many good AST mains in comparison to WHM mains. Unless the top groups have had WHMs that play as good on ASTs that could swap out, then they will be running WHM regardless of whether it's better or not.
    Even with a AST buff, I still prefer having a SCH on my WHM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yona87 View Post
    Even with a AST buff, I still prefer having a SCH on my WHM.
    I mean that's fine. Everyone has their preference.

    I just think both jobs are just as viable now and depending on the fight, they can lean towards AST or SCH. Creator will be interesting for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptiletc View Post
    And? Warrior and Scholar can solo Titan EX just fine. With these buffs, AST could too.

    With Savage being scaled down difficulty wise, I do think WHM will be losing its position to AST. Cure III is incredibly helpful, but SCH/AST's mitigation is close enough while both offer immense versatility that WHM simply doesn't have. This doesn't render WHM any less viable, but it's definitely the weakest of the three healer jobs now.
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    RIP whm?
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    Whenever a class gets buffed, be it tank, dps or whatever, there's always an over reaction on classes of the same role.
    Let's see how the Astro performs for a while with these changes. It's best performance is still reliant on right card right time.

    Generally for those people who like healers it's not a big deal, as they're likely to have played all three.
    Will be interesting to try the different healer combinations, and see how Noct performs in particular.
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    Last edited by Teraluna; 09-24-2016 at 05:00 PM.

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    lol I've read this silly "rip whm" thing way too many times on this forum. People just like to overreact.
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