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    Finn Glesnes
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    Im really resenting having to drop WHM now for AST that I dont like just to find a static for 3.4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjaere View Post
    Im really resenting having to drop WHM now for AST that I dont like just to find a static for 3.4
    WHM is a really powerful healer and extremely wanted for Savage groups, and these changes won't change that. I do hope they might balance the numbers of WHM and AST as main healers though (currently 152 AST kills for A8S vs 893 WHM kills on logs).

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdyer View Post
    Whm+ Ast (noct) works well, higher consistent heals possible. Shielding will be acceptable.
    Except noct AST still won't be competitive against SCH who are wanted in raid groups mainly for their DPS capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    WHM is a really powerful healer and extremely wanted for Savage groups, and these changes won't change that. I do hope they might balance the numbers of WHM and AST as main healers though (currently 152 AST kills for A8S vs 893 WHM kills on logs).


    Except noct AST still won't be competitive against SCH who are wanted in raid groups mainly for their DPS capabilities.
    I havnt parsed a sch, but wouldn't balance either raid wide or extended single target trump sch damage?

    Assuming a 2000 dps character we are talking about 400 dps increase for single and aprox 1200 dps for raid wide + Ast dps. I know that there is some rng but with redraw over 2 draw sets you have a 50% chance ( each set either spread or royal road)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdyer View Post
    I havnt parsed a sch, but wouldn't balance either raid wide or extended single target trump sch damage?

    Assuming a 2000 dps character we are talking about 400 dps increase for single and aprox 1200 dps for raid wide + Ast dps. I know that there is some rng but with redraw over 2 draw sets you have a 50% chance ( each set either spread or royal road)
    You might be actually right, but my math isn't good enough to claim either way with 100% confidence. I checked FFXIVlogs for SCH vs AST DPS on A8S and the best SCH had around 300 higher DPS than the best AST. If the group DPS is 10k for a fight and an AST would have AoE balance up for 1/3 of the fight, then AST would bring a higher DPS buff than the SCH, right?

    In any case, AST+SCH brings out the biggest DPS benefit, but they did so before the patch as well. And WHM has still the biggest healing power especially for AoE and is the safest option, especially for progression. Will be interesting to see if there will be more groups with WHM+AST now.
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