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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Obviously it doesn't fix PLD but it could bring it up to DRK DPS levels as long as it spends tons of time in SwO.
    Is it really the only way they can think of to fix PLD ?
    I don't understand...PLD is supposed to be "the tank that mitigates" and WAR, "the tank that does damage", yet all they do to make PLD more desirable is to improve its raw DPS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is it really the only way they can think of to fix PLD ?
    I don't understand...PLD is supposed to be "the tank that mitigates" and WAR, "the tank that does damage", yet all they do to make PLD more desirable is to improve its raw DPS...
    They got confused and gave it to AST. Bole is essentially a long tank CD now.

    But I'm guessing they're trying to help PLD do better in OT spot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhaja View Post
    They got confused and gave it to AST. Bole is essentially a long tank CD now.

    But I'm guessing they're trying to help PLD do better in OT spot?
    Why is your PLD OT in the 1at place? Lol, m old school, main tank or gtfo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is it really the only way they can think of to fix PLD ?
    I don't understand...PLD is supposed to be "the tank that mitigates" and WAR, "the tank that does damage", yet all they do to make PLD more desirable is to improve its raw DPS...
    I agree (sort of). I think this +DPS change is a necessity for keeping PLD/DRK relatively balanced for cutting edge prog, but I think that PLD could use more defensive/utility-related tweaks overall. I guess they figured that since a large amount of people are still playing PLD that they didn't need to really touch it until 4.0 - even though that's obviously faulty logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is it really the only way they can think of to fix PLD ?
    I don't understand...PLD is supposed to be "the tank that mitigates" and WAR, "the tank that does damage", yet all they do to make PLD more desirable is to improve its raw DPS...
    Tanks mitigating damage as their best asset isn't exactly part of the FFXIV meta. You seem to get more out of a heavy hitting Tank that needs more healing than a Tank that can take hits giving healers time to DD. So it's natural that they want to try and give PLD that DD potential since no matter how much you add to their dmg mitigation, it's worthless if their changes don't balance the dmg output of the party to put them on par with WAR/DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Tanks mitigating damage as their best asset isn't exactly part of the FFXIV meta. You seem to get more out of a heavy hitting Tank that needs more healing than a Tank that can take hits giving healers time to DD. So it's natural that they want to try and give PLD that DD potential since no matter how much you add to their dmg mitigation, it's worthless if their changes don't balance the dmg output of the party to put them on par with WAR/DRK.
    They're also ignoring the fact that PLD doesn't mitigate more than WAR does. It's actually a bit less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is it really the only way they can think of to fix PLD ?
    I don't understand...PLD is supposed to be "the tank that mitigates" and WAR, "the tank that does damage", yet all they do to make PLD more desirable is to improve its raw DPS...
    While true to some extent, the real design philosophy is that PLD uses direct mitigation outside of attacks, and WAR uses attacks to mitigate. (inner beast and blood bath being examples, where you need to land an attack, in order to perform, where PLD has far more moves that dont require you to attack to do them.) Their increased DPS was more so a mistake in their design in the OT position, before tank swaps became a thing.

    I think they were too focused on giving people what they wanted for the expansion (a DPS stance and DPS moves for that stance), they sorta over jumped their mark.
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