economy why not thing be cheaper like jp servers

[Reynhart]

And the prices are so high because people pay them. Even with RMT Gil.

It's a vicious cycle, but the starting point are the prices. You don't "start" by buying gils then purposely pay ridiculous prices just because you can.

The question is why were the prices set so high in the first place ? Before housing, there was literally nothing worth buying.

Here's the thing, though - Gil is "made" via quests, challenge log, vendoring items and dungeons, with roulettes and AiN giving a huge bonus chunk. Gil flows out of the system via NPCs - items, melding, repairing, house/chamber permits etc. The rest is distribution among the players.

If you want to keep the economy in check, you need to have a limited amount of gils and supplies. Crafting guilds should not be able to supply infinite amount of materials, vendors shouldn't sell infinite amount of items and have infinite amount of gils to buy from you.

But putting such a system is very difficult so, the economy is sure to derail at some point...

[Laurima]

It's a vicious cycle, but the starting point are the prices. You don't "start" by buying gils then purposely pay ridiculous prices just because you can.

The question is why were the prices set so high in the first place ? Before housing, there was literally nothing worth buying.

If you want to keep the economy in check, you need to have a limited amount of gils and supplies. Crafting guilds should not be able to supply infinite amount of materials, vendors shouldn't sell infinite amount of items and have infinite amount of gils to buy from you.

But putting such a system is very difficult so, the economy is sure to derail at some point...

Wrong
it's players and the mindsets they grow up with and what society instills in them, JP servers have exactly the same as EU and NA servers, yet look, cheap prices, Western culture reveres fortune, and more gil = more status, the japanese players and servers don't have this stigma

[Jeycht]

When I see a "friend" telling me "Hey look at that craft gear ! Isn't that cool?" Day one after the patch, for tons of gils, when I know that he doens't have any craft or way to make that amount of gils... I'm not even surprise by the price.

[hydralus]

When I see a "friend" telling me "Hey look at that craft gear ! Isn't that cool?" Day one after the patch, for tons of gils, when I know that he doens't have any craft or way to make that amount of gils... I'm not even surprise by the price.

How do you know they don't have a way to make that amount of gil? Could be doing Aquapolis or PotD runs for hours on end getting materia.

[Jeycht]

Because he already told me multiple time buying gils and don't play much except to raid?
btw PotD and Aquapolis didn't exist and he have never done diadem.

[LaylaTsarra]

When I see a "friend" telling me "Hey look at that craft gear ! Isn't that cool?" Day one after the patch, for tons of gils, when I know that he doens't have any craft or way to make that amount of gils... I'm not even surprise by the price.

Why would he need the crafting gear if he/she doesn't have any crafting jobs leveled? Relative to gil it's pretty easy to make gathering or crafting but it does take work, lot of it, to get to a point where big money can be made.

And in the case of crafting, pentamelding the gear is where the real expense comes in.

[Derio]

Take a economics course. It's simple supply and demand. JP servers have ton of gatherers and crafters so their prices are lower due to high amount of supply. nature servers, not everyone likes the hand and land classes so supply is low while demand is high which in turn causes inflation and high MB prices

[Jeycht]

Why would he need the crafting gear if he/she doesn't have any crafting jobs leveled? Relative to gil it's pretty easy to make gathering or crafting but it does take work, lot of it, to get to a point where big money can be made.

And in the case of crafting, pentamelding the gear is where the real expense comes in.

I'm talking about the 220 crafted gear, to raid, day one A5S-A8S.

[Reynhart]

It's players and the mindsets they grow up with and what society instills in them

More gils does not equals more status. No one cares if you have millions of gils sleeping on your retainers. However, if you have that sweet HQ Thavnairian mirage...
But who set the prices of such signs of weath ? Crafters.

Take a economics course. It's simple supply and demand.

It's not as simple as that. It works in real economy because quantity is always finite. In this game, everyone can gather and craft anything and in the long run, it's far far cheaper to level your classes than buying items at such a ridiculous price.
If you can create your own product, it will be cheaper than buying it from someone else.

It's also basic economy that a product sells for more than the buying price of its components, and that principle is also broken in FFXIV.

[LaylaTsarra]

I'm talking about the 220 crafted gear, to raid, day one A5S-A8S.

Oh I guess they'll say the same thing then with the new 250 crafted gear then. Look forward to it.