Tanks and Feast

[Yoruno]

The only tank which is sidelined at the moment is DRK which is soon expected to have a buff. As for the other two tanks, warriors are capable of stealing a lead whilst paladins are great at securing them. As for them being underpowered, I have a few tanks in chaos I could point fingers at to change your mind. If a team is marking and syncing burst warrior can be absolutely brutal. Hardly underpowered.

[TiramisuMacaron]

The only tank which is sidelined at the moment is DRK which is soon expected to have a buff. As for the other two tanks, warriors are capable of stealing a lead whilst paladins are great at securing them. As for them being underpowered, I have a few tanks in chaos I could point fingers at to change your mind. If a team is marking and syncing burst warrior can be absolutely brutal. Hardly underpowered.

My argument is more like: you can't support the teammates matchmaking gives you enough to tilt the match in your favour because of having superior skill as a tank class.

Let's do a thought experiment. If you were to ask me how I would arrange a team if I got 3 plat players and 1 silver player I would say: silver tank, plat healer, plat melee, plat ranged. I would guess that arrangement would win a high percentage of the time against any other comp with those skill levels.

[Yoruno]

IMO, as a tank you have the responsibility of keeping yourself alive, while doing damage and holding majority of the medals. You'd be surprised how many tanks do not know the medal system at all, and games are lost due to tanks taking too much, or too little. To buff tanks would mean to buff healers too. Unfortunately, what liquid says is true because halfway through the season I main warrior and had to teach myself how to play DRG, due to the fact you simply couldn't carry. I wouldn't blame the job, but more the matchmaking system, which can easily be fixed by reverting to how it previously was in Season 1.

[itsoni]

A good WAR has much more solo carry potential than any other tank - and that's where I think the problem is. It's not that the WAR is too strong, it's just the other tanks are niche.

Nothing needs to be dumbed down at all. In fact, its the other tanks that need to be adjusted to bring them up to the meta. DRK is too niche to be strong enough to make a difference by itself and PLD can only make a good team even better.

We need to avoid putting forward suggestions which dumb down PVP.

A big part of it is matchmaking though. What kind of askujzhfjdskjng suggested unranked players who have never played a match in their life should be paired up with people that have played 1000+?

[Canadane]

It's not so much that tanks have too little carry potential, it's that DPS have too much.
Try carrying a team on scholar. You'll find yourself at 5+ stacks of culling time and no MP after one of your DPS finally does kick the bucket.

If anything a good tank can help a lot more than a good healer.

[Geologo]

It's not so much that tanks have too little carry potential, it's that DPS have too much.
Try carrying a team on scholar. You'll find yourself at 5+ stacks of culling time and no MP after one of your DPS finally does kick the bucket.

If anything a good tank can help a lot more than a good healer.

I still think that a good tank can carry only if the opponent healer is not aware of stunlock for PLDs and double fell cleave for WARs,
or atleast he as not the same "carry potential" as an healer, I know that SCH drinks out his mp pretty fast but if both party are still alive because of bad DPSs, the party that have the strongest healer goes on, also if I have a solid healer usually I dare a little more to set my burst.
Obviously this is just my opinion.