Squadrons are a let down for now

[Chessala]

Let's assume for a minute that they *did* wait until everything was done and polished before releasing it.

You'd hear:
"Why wouldn't you let us try it a little first and then give you some constructive feedback on how to make it better?"

This is, in essence, large-scale testing that can't be done between developers.

There are test servers for a reason. These kind of systems can be simulated. When you release something on such a large scale, there is no room for using your players as guinea pigs. Either you deliver, or the feature fails.

You want player input? You release information about what is planned and ask people to give input. You don't get input AFTER the feature is done because it is easier to change it while it is being developed.

[odintius]

I just wish they put this on hold and work on it more and introduce it in a off patch. I just get this feeling they just adding it to bulk up the patch more.

[Fyce]

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Your whole argument lies in the rough idea that "the more time they take to create content, the better it will be".

But that's simply not true at all.

Even if they were to implement housing on 3.x or whatever, doesn't mean it'd be perfect or that it wouldn't have the blatant flaws we know today.

So, not only you give your players way less content on average (which leads to people leaving the game because you're just too slow to deliver), but the content you give them doesn't even have the guarantee that it'll be even good.
But it seems you completly missed my point as none of what you said answer that. So, as I said, you didn't get it, so I'm done arguing.

Last thing: why do I care about your opinion? Because what you want directly contradicts with the very reason I subscribed to this game for 3 years now.

Goodbye thread.

[MagiusNecros]

Diadem didn't "fail," it just was the framework for the next part of it in the next major patch so they could finish it and add more content to it.

Give them a chance to finish their content.

Maybe they should try testing it in isolation on a legacy server and work on it and perfect it before launching it instead of releasing half baked content for the sake of releasing content.

[Ashewalker]

How about all of you do like i do?

Instead of thinking how everything will be and be hyped up to no end about the patch, be with no hype at all, and check how things will be when the patch comes out, like a new thing you never seen before.

If everyone was like this, everyone would enjoy the patch much more.

[Jynx]

Even if they were to implement housing on 3.x or whatever, doesn't mean it'd be perfect or that it wouldn't have the blatant flaws we know today.

So, not only you give your players way less content on average (which leads to people leaving the game because you're just too slow to deliver), but the content you give them doesn't even have the guarantee that it'll be even good.

Goodbye thread.

OH boy.

Let's just say that you feel housing would be just as bad today if it was released now than years ago. Your out of your mind or have no faith in the developers.

I trust them to release good content when givin time to bug test and stress test and polish their content. You obviously think of product development as a linear line with no change in quality regardless of time.

Systems interconnect and interact when polished well as a whole. Systems are clunky and unintuative when put together seperated.

But I guess your done so you won!

[MagiusNecros]

How about all of you do like i do?

Instead of thinking how everything will be and be hyped up to no end about the patch, be with no hype at all, and check how things will be when the patch comes out, like a new thing you never seen before.

If everyone was like this, everyone would enjoy the patch much more.

I already run with the mindset that any new additions will be trash. Less disappointment that way.

[Savagelf]

squardon are great ideal first there some many fates one can't do alone.

there one eastern shroud that player can get minion but nobody want do it

there one in The Churning mists that players need a team to do there alot fates that aren't doable alone. there one drop the fat chocobo card nobody can do this alone.

there alot fates need team work to do

i like see this system like fellow in ffxi where customize your squardons. there alot good reason for this.

Yoshi P is think about new players aswell old he focus everyone not just one group of players how can he help all us

[Laerune]

I already run with the mindset that any new additions will be trash. Less disappointment that way.

I hate to judge before trying something, but with the new features, I too will go with the mindset that it is bad. FFXIV is great with trial bosses, MSQ, Side-quests and dungeons, but the new content always comes as half baked.

[Balmung_Griffin]

As I said in the other thread, I fear 4.0 will come with more unfinished stuff before anything started at 3.0 is actually finished/fixed.

Diadem and Gold Saucer are abandoned, Free Company Crafting is just bugging people to finish crafts.

Airship Explorations (Exploration LOL) are just Free Company Ventures, Squadron is just Grand Company Ventures, Chocobo training is just a cutscene.

It's a trend of contents that we have no interaction whatsoever. We just click menus, dices are rolled and we wait for timers. Repeat.

It makes me real sad: Most of the great stuff we had this expansion are basic stuff we had for 2.0 (Story, Primals, Raids)

Most of the new stuff just fell flat.

PS. Except PotD, that was good.