war nerfs(srs bznz pls)

[DaulBan]

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I don't think that any argument that boils down to 'this comp is bad so we must make this other comp worse'. Say you take path off of WAR and give them just a 100% damage done is turned into regen. That utility, gone, whatever. But SE would still be valuable to NIN/PLD/DRK damage. You'd still want the +10% damage from that (and make NIN's life easier) so you would still take a Warrior. Then do you take both away? Make SE worse, similar to Delirium (just the healing down?). I mean, I'd almost rather they gave SE to the DRK and then buff PLD utility so that it'd be DRK/PLD DRK/WAR, but then people would complain that DRK is too popular.

I'd argue that the tankiness of a WAR is almost irrelevant unless they absolutely cannot tank. An OT that only takes swaps and has a CD for it will be fine in all ways for damage... But if they just had no mitigation at all (IE 2.0 WAR) then we have a completely different situation.

[Lambdafish]

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I didn't say that, I'm implying that WAR is over-designed, it is designed to do everything competently (albeit not at the same time as has been discussed), and that as as a result of this there is a greater expectation of tanks as a whole, which the other two cannot keep up with. Adjustments need to be (and likely will be with the information from the devs) made from both sides, with PLD and DRK being more viable from an OT standpoint, and WAR being less of a jack of all trades (master of all).

Also, your argument about comps falls apart when instead of looking at it as "PLD and DRK comps don't work" you look at it as "PLD and DRK comps both work best when accompanied by a WAR", the issue we face here is that WARs are basically mandatory