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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Reynhart Kristensen
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    PLD's Clemency is affected by Convalescence, which is 30% on PLD, so they can buff their own healing.
    This is a dedicated healing skill...that WAR can cross-class for healing spell received.
    Convalescence does not increase damage in a twisted way.

    And before HW, PLD didn't even have "healing skills", while WAR could already buff Second Wind...a skill that's is even not his own.
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoxo View Post
    You understand War naturally has the biggest damage penalty with Tank stance right? I think Unchained is warranted.
    You remember WAR is the only tank that can permanently apply at leaset +32% damage increase, right ? And skills that ignores, Defiance damage penalty ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    WAR is not a class about having your cake and eating it, too. It is a class with versatility based on trade-offs.
    "Am I doing this awesome thing or that awesome thing" is not a question of "trade-off".
    Having an offensive buff that boost survivability or a defensive buff that boost DPS is just an arbitrary decision to make WAR more powerful than its counterpart.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 09-19-2016 at 02:20 PM.

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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    Graylle Celestia
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    "Am I doing this awesome thing OR that awesome thing" is not a question of "trade-off".


    And PLD and DRK use their defensive buffs for offensive functionality, too. Because both prefer to be taking hits for procs, if you know you don't need to save your defensive CDs for something, you use them to allow yourself to stay in SwO or Grit-less with less healer stress / sacrifice.

    That's really no different from the minor survivability boost from Berserk or the 1 stack you gain from just using RI or Vengeance.

    One is using defense to fuel offense. The other is using offense to fuel defense. I guess they should lock dCDs like Rampart and Shadow Skin to tank stances because a tank utilizing cross synergy between offense and defense is inexcusable.

    And again, you might want to take some time to understand balance before you open your mouth about it. WAR has Maim. They also have lower weapon skill potencies to balance it against stuff like Darkside and FoF.

    WAR: 150, 190/200, 250/270/280
    DRK: 150, 220/250, 260(400 with DA)/280/300
    PLD: 150, 200/230, 260/350/240(640 including DoT)
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    Last edited by Brian_; 09-19-2016 at 04:35 PM.