Please consider: Apartments to those that don't own a house first.

[Archaell]

They aren't philanthropists, they are greedy bastards, but they also aren't much different from people who buy stuff on MB fore resale.

I am judging it from the perspective of a person who wants to buy a house. If there is one plot and three players who are going to buy it, one being the player who can't get to the plot it time, one being the greedy bastard and one being a cute little miqote girl who wants to start her own flower garden, it's better if the greedy bastard buys it because then the player is able to buy the plot from them. Now I know that it is heart crushing that the little girl got beaten to it by the greedy bastard, but it leaves the plot open for whoever is willing to put in the effort to pay the greedy bill. It ain't nice, yet it's capitalism.

You are right, the system is broken. That's where I see the core of the problem, not the greedy sellers, but with the way the system is implemented. It's mind-blowing how difficult it is to add more housing in this game...

It would be nice if everyone could get a house, but I am afraid that such a thing would come at cost of making the housing entirely instanced on house by house basis... I am not sure many players would like such a thing. I have few friends who totally hate the idea and once the housing is freely available in instances they lose any interest in it. So I wouldn't be surprised if a noticeable part of the demand for housing came from it's limited availability.

[MomomiMomi]

If there is one plot and three players who are going to buy it, one being the player who can't get to the plot it time, one being the greedy bastard and one being a cute little miqote girl who wants to start her own flower garden, it's better if the greedy bastard buys it because then the player is able to buy the plot from them. Now I know that it is heart crushing that the little girl got beaten to it by the greedy bastard, but it leaves the plot open for whoever is willing to put in the effort to pay the greedy bill. It ain't nice, yet it's capitalism.

And then the little girl who really wanted her flower garden pays the greedy bastard triple the cost of the house, then pays for the house, and gets her garden.

What was gained? Nothing for anyone but the greedy person.

[Deceptus]

But if you have a house...why the hell do you even need an apartment to begin with? The FC house I agree is stupid, but owning your own house? You don't need an apartment, sorry.

I mentioned owning an FC house, not simply being a part of it. Same with owning a FC house "room" I didn't include that specifically because the FC can collapse at any moment and your room is toast.

[Archaell]

And then the little girl who really wanted her flower garden pays the greedy bastard triple the cost of the house, then pays for the house, and gets her garden.

What was gained? Nothing for anyone but the greedy person.

The girl got house, the greedy person got gil. Two players are happy. 2 happy people > 1 happy person... tho it changes nothing for the homeless you :P

Now in all seriousness. Higher price is decreasing the amount of players being able to afford the plot and so increasing your chance of buying the plot - if you have enough gil.

The greedy player is not changing the game much, the plot is still there - they are just making it cost a little bit more. (ironically fixing SE's mistake of keeping the pricing so low when the demand is so high and plots limited).

As I said before buying houses is fair for everybody. The person who gets to the plot first can do whatever they want to do with it even if you dislike what they do with it.

[Gallus]

Part of the reason we got here is because of people's greed in regards to houses...and now you are asking those who brought us here not to greed again. Sounds like a very poor plan xD.

[Derio]

As long as it's not possible to have 3 apartments, one per ward. One of the main problems is people owning multiple properties, which makes it inconvenient to others.

Honestly if it were up to me you would only be able to have one property. That way the entire server has enough for everyone

[Archaell]

Part of the reason we got here is because of people's greed in regards to houses...and now you are asking those who brought us here not to greed again. Sounds like a very poor plan xD.

If you are talking about OP, they are asking SE to block the house owners from being able to buy apartments for a week. That's doing something evil on the premise of doing good.

In my opinion Yoshida learnt his lesson and the apartment space is flexible enough to be multiplied based on the demand (in the best case scenario on server by server basis and without waiting for patches).

[Gallus]

If you are talking about OP, they are asking SE to block the house owners from being able to buy apartments for a week. That's doing something evil on the premise of doing good.

In my opinion Yoshida learnt his lesson and the apartment space is flexible enough to be multiplied based on the demand (in the best case scenario on server by server basis and without waiting for patches).

Ah, sorry, didn't read the topic and assumed he was talking about asking others not to buy :P. Totally my fault. I think there are enough apartments tho.

[aesteval]

Man, this discussion happens in every thread about housing. It's this whole idea of "As long as Yoshi himself doesn't step in and tell me I'm doing something wrong then what I'm doing is obviously fine".

Except in this case the apartments preview specifically mentions that house owners can also own an apartment. Ie: the dev team are explicitly stating that it's ok to have one of each.

And in the 3.4 trailer it mentions not to worry about running out of apartments - they set it up so that they can add more easily enough.

Assuming we're talking about the same thing being wrong. I think house flipping is wrong and we see people being punished for it. I'm just commenting on the owning a house and apartment bit (for actual use and all that.)

[aesteval]

Here you got me interested. How do you make grade V materias break less during overmelding?

Why why WHY would you overmeld grade V materia? Only a couple of pieces of gear would actually need it overmelded to hit the stat cap. And the pieces that could use it I currently refuse to overmeld because I don't currently need those stats to craft anything. Overmeld with IV and III materia. They're good enough and loads cheaper and more accessible.