RIP Diadem again

[Sanghelios]

If they would make it relevant like back in 3.1 then everyone would complain again how easy such good gear will be to obtain. People did complain about that in 3.1 and they just adjusted it to that feedback. 235 is probably the best way as its not much weaker than 240, still somehow relevant and useful for a lot of casual players main characters and for the hc players off classes while not being such a high ilvl that people would complain about it.

[thorkellthetall]

If they would make it relevant like back in 3.1 then everyone would complain again how easy such good gear will be to obtain. People did complain about that in 3.1 and they just adjusted it to that feedback. 235 is probably the best way as its not much weaker than 240, still somehow relevant and useful for a lot of casual players main characters and for the hc players off classes while not being such a high ilvl that people would complain about it.

Why would hardcore players gear their off classes with anything but 250 crafted? I also am having trouble seeing any casual players managing to find groups for the retuned Diadem when it's inferior.

[Khalithar]

I also am having trouble seeing any casual players managing to find groups for the retuned Diadem when it's inferior.

First guess: Retuned Diadem will be connected to the relic. (I REALLY hope that's not the case).

Second guess: They put some kind of item in there that's needed for progression.

Third guess: It will be involved with that new Tails content or whatever it's called.

[thorkellthetall]

First guess: Retuned Diadem will be connected to the relic. (I REALLY hope that's not the case).

Second guess: They put some kind of item in there that's needed for progression.

Third guess: It will be involved with that new Tails content or whatever it's called.

It could be involved in Wondrous Tales, but you can only get credit for 9 of the rolled duties, so people could simply ignore Diadem altogether. Diadem was necessary for the crafted step of Anima, so they could indeed revisit it for the 3.45 step.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Why would hardcore players gear their off classes with anything but 250 crafted? I also am having trouble seeing any casual players managing to find groups for the retuned Diadem when it's inferior.

Because the sheer cost will be absurd. There just isn't really a point unless you occasionally raid on an off class. Besides, no content outside Savage and Sophia EX will require anything above ilvl 220. So... no real point to spending tons of gil.

[thorkellthetall]

Because the sheer cost will be absurd. There just isn't really a point unless you occasionally raid on an off class. Besides, no content outside Savage and Sophia EX will require anything above ilvl 220. So... no real point to spending tons of gil.

As opposed to spending gil on what, glamor and minions? The only thing gil has any value for regarding building up your character is progression. Materials for food and potions, and crafted battle gear for until you acquire superior tomestone gear or raid gear. Like you said, non-extreme or savage content can be done with just about any hodgepodge gear. Gil has no purpose otherwise.

[Moomba33]

It's a tough balance to strike.
Too low an ilevel and the content is "Dead on Arrival". Too high and people complain about it devaluing raid gear, especially if it's uncapped compared to other sources for the same ilevel.

Maybe i240 would have been better? Equal to upgraded lore but one less step to get since you don't need to get upgrade items for it.

[Ceasaria]

If they would make it relevant like back in 3.1 then everyone would complain again how easy such good gear will be to obtain. People did complain about that in 3.1 and they just adjusted it to that feedback. 235 is probably the best way as its not much weaker than 240, still somehow relevant and useful for a lot of casual players main characters and for the hc players off classes while not being such a high ilvl that people would complain about it.

Sorrry Zeniba my friend, but i don't really agree with it.
Diadem was a new way to get relevant gears and you were not limited as it was and it is actually for tomestone and raid.
I'am a harcore player (A8S cleared) and for me it was really nice to have the possibility to improve my rotations for any jobs during hours, and to get with high luck very good rewards.
Sure the gears raid lost in value but you had to be very lucky and patient to get gears which could replace it.
And people actually complain because they can't have high level gears for all their jobs at once, and there is nothing to do in this game after nearly one month (even with raid) after the launch of a new patch.
I'am in this case right know, I go play other games. Before with Diadem, it was not true.
Diadem was the content which offer to players a new way to play FF XIV and have gears without restrictions, improve skills (a little bit if you cared) and have fun (or not).
And finally, I really don't care if casual players have better gear than hardcore players because what determine the level of a good player is his skills.
So yeah, I'am disappointed by this incoming ilevel 235 gears Diadem...