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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    So this translation makes it pretty clear that they're only fixing the most abusive part of PL'ing, which is the AFK leveling and level 50s claiming for you. I 100% agree with nerfing that part of it. If someone is going to get powerleveled at least have them present and make them claim the mob themselves before they can get good XP from it. It'll still be very fast but I think we'll see a huge decrease from the eyepopping XP/hr numbers people have posted.
    Actually, I really don't think it will be that fast, even if they just fix that one part. I'm pretty sure it will be slower than a regular party. If the low level player is the one who has to get first claim/aggro, because of the nature of ranged attacks in this game, they're gonna be in significant danger immediately if fighting multiple mobs. It'll be difficult to PL with groups of enemies after they change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    Actually, I really don't think it will be that fast, even if they just fix that one part. I'm pretty sure it will be slower than a regular party. If the low level player is the one who has to get first claim/aggro, because of the nature of ranged attacks in this game, they're gonna be in significant danger immediately if fighting multiple mobs. It'll be difficult to PL with groups of enemies after they change that.
    I didn't think of that at all, thanks. =]
    But still, there's stoneskin to take the initial brunt if they really wanted to cheat that badly.

    If they take away the chain/link bonus when someone helps you outside your party, I would be able to settle with that.
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    Last edited by Issac; 10-12-2011 at 04:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    I didn't think of that at all, thanks. =]
    But still, there's stoneskin to take the initial brunt if they really wanted to cheat that badly.

    If they take away the chain/link bonus when someone helps you outside your party, I would be able to settle with that.
    There's a lot more involved if the PL'er and PL'ee have to be in separate parties. In link situations the PL'ee is going to need to perform actions to claim every single one of the mobs before they can be AOE'd down. Since the PL'er has to wait to kill, they'll need to get hate to prevent the group from beating up the PL'ee. All in all I think it'll be a substantial slowdown and increase in work, which is fair. Just how much the XP/hr goes down I don't think we'll see unless someone is bored enough to try it like this before it's fixed to require it.
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    Just how much the XP/hr goes down I don't think we'll see unless someone is bored enough to try it like this before it's fixed to require it.
    The exp rate even outside of PLing as a whole is messed up, which Yoshi said compounded the problem. I think after the patch 1.19a we can safely expect the rates for ranks 20+ to feel slower.

    Notice how he didn't mention anything about a server rollback? All you guys who jumped on it will likely get to keep your precious levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    The exp rate even outside of PLing as a whole is messed up, which Yoshi said compounded the problem. I think after the patch 1.19a we can safely expect the rates for ranks 20+ to feel slower.

    Notice how he didn't mention anything about a server rollback? All you guys who jumped on it will likely get to keep your precious levels.
    I dont think anyone would tolerate a server rollback, especially since people have done alot more than just crazy exp parties.
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teknoman View Post
    I dont think anyone would tolerate a server rollback, especially since people have done alot more than just crazy exp parties.
    Yeah I think they're just gonna have to let what will be alone. There are people completing missions, leveling new jobs, etc. etc. Rolling back the server would result in a lot of unrelated progress being rolled back as well.. which would cause an even greater uproar than the PL'ing itself.

    Lesser of two evils, in other words.

    I'm just glad to "hear" that they're aware of the issue, that it's not intended, and that it's going to be addressed.

    It will be interesting to see how many rage threads are started about "xp being nerfed" and people quitting because of it once that happens. There are people out there who seriously think 1-50 inside of a day is perfectly valid and acceptable and will likely be pretty pissed when they can't do it anymore. I'll have my popcorn ready .

    Anyway, I think a number of the people obsessed with getting to level 50 as fast as possible, at whatever cost, are going to be basically running themselves out of the game that much faster. It happens in every MMO, no matter how much content there is waiting for them at level cap. It certainly will be no exception here.

    In every MMO, there's a group of players who hit level cap ASAP. They burn through all the content. They get bored. They complain on the forums about "lack of content". They leave for some new MMO. They repeat exactly the same thing all over again.

    Meanwhile, those of us taking in the sights, enjoying the content and just enjoying the journey (which is becoming more and more entertaining with each patch they release), will be contentedly making progress and having fun.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 10-12-2011 at 07:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I'm just glad to "hear" that they're aware of the issue, that it's not intended, and that it's going to be addressed.

    It will be interesting to see how many rage threads are started about "xp being nerfed" and people quitting because of it once that happens. There are people out there who seriously think 1-50 inside of a day is perfectly valid and acceptable and will likely be pretty pissed when they can't do it anymore. I'll have my popcorn ready .
    I'm sure SE is trying to increase the population rather cut themselves more and increase the bleeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    I didn't think of that at all, thanks. =]
    But still, there's stoneskin to take the initial brunt if they really wanted to cheat that badly.

    If they take away the chain/link bonus when someone helps you outside your party, I would be able to settle with that.
    Who are you? Who died and made you king? Just because you and others fanatic cried your eyes out and flooded the forum with threads like this doesn't mean this "fix" was intended for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sontawila View Post
    Who are you? Who died and made you king? Just because you and others fanatic cried your eyes out and flooded the forum with threads like this doesn't mean this "fix" was intended for you.
    Who died and made you an ass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    Who died and made you an ass?
    Who else Jesus of course. *prays*
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