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  1. #5461
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Commendations are given based on performance. If you want a commendation, perform well. Be outstanding. Or, at the very least, make the run smooth and enjoyable.
    If you perform well enough, people will notice you and give you a commendation.
    If you do a substandard job, you aren't going to get a commendation.

    Even if you want the achievement, it's something you need to earn. Everyone else is working hard to earn it.
    It sure would be nice if that was true. But I've gotten 0 comms for carrying an entire party before, and more than I can count for doing absolutely nothing. Or for overwriting a co-AST's AoE Balance/Arrow with AoE Ewers. In the end, I wouldn't say getting comms is any good indicator of your performance, much less the achievement.
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  2. #5462
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    FinaSel's Avatar
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    It sure would be nice if that was true. But I've gotten 0 comms for carrying an entire party before, and more than I can count for doing absolutely nothing. Or for overwriting a co-AST's AoE Balance/Arrow with AoE Ewers. In the end, I wouldn't say getting comms is any good indicator of your performance, much less the achievement.
    I guess people give commendations for different reasons. Each person had their own criteria for what is deserving of a commendation. I understand and respect that.

    I suppose what I should have said is "Commendations should be given based on performance." But, everyone is free to give them as they like.

    But for me, I believe hard work should be rewarded and rewards should be earned.
    I am the type of person who does not believe in handouts.
    And, if a handout is given, I believe the receiver has an obligation to repay the deed when they are able. It's just my personality.

    It takes all types to make a world.
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  3. #5463
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    While I wouldn't deride someone for asking, it is more of a turn off to see someone asking for commendations. Unless the run is unenjoyable, i will always commend -someone-.

    If someone decides to ask, or even demand or beg for a commendation, I will not. I don't find asking for it for yourself to be something commendable.
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  4. #5464
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Leveling Roulette drops me, as a lvl. 60 BLM, in Aurum Vale with a 58 DRK, 48 AST, and a 60 NIN.

    Us DPS liked killing the morbol fruits, because we like finishing our stuff fast.

    Then this DRK, out of the blue, calls the NIN "a fucking asshole", because apparently, we're killing these fruits on purpose, "just coz u dont get exp ur ruining for ppl trying lvl". Right.

    You know, we got the party through Aurum Vale, Aurum BLOODY VALE, in roughly 25 minutes. So apparently, this constitutes "ruining for ppl trying lvl". WHATEVER THAT MEANS.

    This DRK also questioned why we, as lvl. 60s, were doing Aurum Vale. Because AV isn't a dungeon in Leveling Roulette, oh no. Perish the thought!

    And this NIN was just amazingly nice about being insulted for no goddamn reason at all. Even tried to get me to calm down, and gave me a comm for defending him. I'm not angry at him in the slightest, but it just sickened me to see that kind of attitude from this DRK being accepted so easily.
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    Last edited by Mysterysword; 09-16-2016 at 10:22 PM.

  5. #5465
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FinaSel View Post
    Maybe it's a difference in culture.

    If someone in my culture asked to be recognized for their hard work, they will be seen very negatively by their peers. This kind of thing just is not done. It's unheard of. Humility is a virtue.
    For me, when someone says "You did a good job!" or "You play so well!" it is socially acceptable to say "No no, I didn't do very well at all." or "No, I only did well because everyone / you helped me." or "I still have a lot to learn."
    To even accept praise given to you is socially odd.
    Yeah, seems to be it. In my country if someone is trying to praise your work and you keep saying "no, I have a lot to learn" or "I didn't do very well at all" is perceived as rude. Of course humility is important, but it's also important to have confidence in what you do and to know that it's not wrong to be praised if you did something well.

    Also quite normal here if workers do a good job and the boss still doesn't seem to care, to go talk with him and show that they deserve more respect and praise because of their hard work.
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 09-16-2016 at 10:22 PM.

  6. #5466
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    Asking for something is never wrong, if you never ask for anything you will never get anything, in the first place. You sure are free to decide to whom you give your commendation, but it certainly doesnt require neither a mockery nor a demeaning attitude towards the person who asked, is that the way it goes about in your culture shaming someone publically for asking something ? you sure of it ? and even showing pride in doing so ? I am really baffled by such.
    I managed to get 3283 commendations without ever asking for one... so I dont think what you're saying is enterily true. There are things you can and should ask for, thats right. I dont consider commendations to be among those - they're something you earn, not something you "deserve". Maybe our concept of commendations and their meaning is different, but someone is basically saying: "PRAISE ME!" is just bad taste.

    There is nothing wrong with being thankful for a commendation though or admitting that you did a good job, so I dont agree with being totally humble... but specifically asking for that "reward"... nah...
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    Last edited by Vidu; 09-16-2016 at 10:27 PM.

  7. #5467
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    KaitlanKela's Avatar
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    Kekela Kela
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I like to compliment people and I say, "thank you," when I get a compliment because while humility is a virtue, so is gratitude.

    Buy you never ask for comms. It's a faux pas. And yeah, I've never asked for comms and I'm close to 1k (been playing for a year). It has way more to do with your attitude and skill level than asking.
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  8. #5468
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    Lmcgyver's Avatar
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    Eyrlumi Kani
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Acantha View Post
    Tank and DRG get it, BLM so didn't... just stayed in his little circle thing the whole time and refused to move, never went into the puddles to mitigate megavolt etc... so I was a little miffed and kept an eye on him.
    This guy NEVER cleansed his poison using the chests on the last boss. Again, refused to move out of Enochian at all. I think he managed 3 stacks at one point. Luckily didn't notice much difference and we got through but ugh... it just annoyed me :/
    I get it, we all wanna keep our dps up when we're playing dps but sometimes you gotta move! >.<
    I will just mention, two little-known facts about that last fight: 1) the poison stacks aren't applied if the person has a shield up (stoneskin, adloquium), and 2) if someone without poison picks up a potion from a coffer, it'll cure someone else with the poison (so if it really does bug you, you can cleanse it for them).
    (4)

  9. #5469
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    Sam West
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by Lmcgyver View Post
    I will just mention, two little-known facts about that last fight: 1) the poison stacks aren't applied if the person has a shield up (stoneskin, adloquium), and 2) if someone without poison picks up a potion from a coffer, it'll cure someone else with the poison (so if it really does bug you, you can cleanse it for them).
    So in other words. You want another person play the game instead of a player that is absurd.
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  10. #5470
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumperX View Post
    So in other words. You want another person play the game instead of a player that is absurd.
    No, I was just sharing two interesting things I've picked up over several runs in there. I never said anything about what someone should do, or had to do (the bit about "so if it really does bug you, you can cleanse it for them" was with regards to "ugh... it just annoyed me").
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    Last edited by Lmcgyver; 09-16-2016 at 11:26 PM.

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