Glamours

[LineageRazor]

This exact thing has been suggested before - and actually got a dev response. While I have no link to the actual article, the response was along the lines of, "Since these jobs all share equipment, each piece of gear would need to store the glamour data for each job. Each piece of gear would have three glamour slots, rather than just one. Maybe more, if we want to account for new jobs in the future who might also share that gear. This would greatly increase the amount of data associated with each piece of gear, which would require more storage space, impact latency, etc, etc. So we are reluctant to do this." In short: No.

Not the response we wanted to hear, obviously. But this is just one of many problems with the current glamour system. The whole thing needs an overhaul, frankly - and one of the things that I'm hoping for for 4.0 is that it gets that much-needed overhaul.

[UnstablePersonality]

This exact thing has been suggested before - and actually got a dev response. While I have no link to the actual article, the response was along the lines of, "Since these jobs all share equipment, each piece of gear would need to store the glamour data for each job. Each piece of gear would have three glamour slots, rather than just one. Maybe more, if we want to account for new jobs in the future who might also share that gear. This would greatly increase the amount of data associated with each piece of gear, which would require more storage space, impact latency, etc, etc. So we are reluctant to do this." In short: No.

Not the response we wanted to hear, obviously. But this is just one of many problems with the current glamour system. The whole thing needs an overhaul, frankly - and one of the things that I'm hoping for for 4.0 is that it gets that much-needed overhaul.

I hope there is a lot of overhaul coming for sure ...the drop of PS3 will help a lot.

[cammi]

How would the PS3 getting drop help anything? It's not like the PS3 is holding EVERY.SINGLE.MOTHER.FING.THING back. That is not the fix to everything. Tho on topic, I wish the glamour system were more like skins instead of using those stupid crystals to put a look over gear. Why didn't they just make costumes and have those as skins you can just put on without something being over the top? Just a shame imho. But I'm used to skins as most games do that instead of what FFXIV uses.

[Naunet]

I'd much prefer a system where we weren't glamouring a specific gear... just give us multiple outfits we can switch between a la Rift or WildStar... Why mess with something that works so well? @_@

[RLofOBFL]

Yoshi himself already said that would be impossible due to the way they made the glamour system, in 3.2 I believe. It has nothing to do with the PS3. He explained it a little better in detail but I don't remember.

[Naunet]

Yoshi himself already said that would be impossible due to the way they made the glamour system, in 3.2 I believe. It has nothing to do with the PS3. He explained it a little better in detail but I don't remember.

It's this level of terrible decision-making that I just don't understand. Are they entirely unaware of the multitude of examples of painless, streamlined systems in other games? I don't understand why they back themselves into coding corners and then pretend like they can't do anything to improve it because the first iteration of their failed system cannot be altered. They can ALWAYS take it out and replace it with something else.

[Maerwen]

I m still waiting for having a feature where I can wear glasses AND a hat/helmet/headgear at the same time (face slot or something).

Indeed, I'd love to wear my glasses with my Cait Sith ears.

[UnstablePersonality]

How would the PS3 getting drop help anything? It's not like the PS3 is holding EVERY.SINGLE.MOTHER.FING.THING back. That is not the fix to everything. Tho on topic, I wish the glamour system were more like skins instead of using those stupid crystals to put a look over gear. Why didn't they just make costumes and have those as skins you can just put on without something being over the top? Just a shame imho. But I'm used to skins as most games do that instead of what FFXIV uses.

In a way it actually is because of it's limited space and what not and its just overall limited everything within it's own design on this game. They can't add special things because or big things because the PS3 literally cannot handle it, they should of dropped it awhile ago. Have you even seen how long it takes people using PS3 too load as is?

[LineageRazor]

It's this level of terrible decision-making that I just don't understand. Are they entirely unaware of the multitude of examples of painless, streamlined systems in other games? I don't understand why they back themselves into coding corners and then pretend like they can't do anything to improve it because the first iteration of their failed system cannot be altered. They can ALWAYS take it out and replace it with something else.

While I agree that a lot of the initial implementation was terrible, ripping it out and replacing it isn't necessarily as easy as you make it sound. As with any piece of code, when you remove a chunk to replace it with something else, you gotta be very careful that the code you removed wasn't being referenced by or having an effect on other code. This exact kind of thing is a major source of bugs when working with computer code. The glamour system was added pretty early in FFXIV's lifespan, and a lot of the game's content has been developed with the expectation that it is there.

In a way it actually is because of it's limited space and what not and its just overall limited everything within it's own design on this game. They can't add special things because or big things because the PS3 literally cannot handle it, they should of dropped it awhile ago. Have you even seen how long it takes people using PS3 too load as is?

PS3 may or may not have an impact on the current glamour system, but it's certainly the case that dropping the console will not necessarily improve matters. SE also wants to keep the game available to as big a chunk of the PC market as they can, and that market includes PCs with even LESS power than PS3s have. I personally know people who play the game on PCs more than ten years old.

If SE drops PS3, don't expect them to suddenly shower the game with new features that PS3 was supposedly holding back. They will continue to develop conservatively. Version 1.0, they tried to tool the game to appeal to higher-end computers - and that was just one of many disastrous decisions that was reworked for ARR.

Dropping PS3 will be a decision made because not because SE's tired of holding back on features. It will be made because it's no longer profitable to spend the development time creating expansions for a console that not many people use. At the moment, though, there are a LOT of folks still on PS3 - especially in Japan, where PS4 did not catch on quite as well as it did in the west.

[Istaru]

I'm curious why they can't allow us to set a glamour to our job crystal.

Job crystal glamour set? Use that and ignore individual slot glamours.

No job crystal glamour? Use individual slot glamours.