Class changing, are we unique?

[RobinMalvin]

To be fair, many of our job abilities are unique to us (whether we started their use or rediscovered them); Blood of the Dragon and its abilities are entirely new, for example (actually, I think Battle Litany is as well)

Except Battle Litany, Blood of the Dragon and its related skills seem to come from the soul crystal (dragon within stirs, resonating with the soul crystal), and Nidhogg!Estinien too can use Geirskogul so they're not unique to just us but common among dragoons.

I'd been believing that us as WoL simply copy-paste skills from previous owners. Glad you remind me I was wrong

[PArcher]

Except Battle Litany, Blood of the Dragon and its related skills seem to come from the soul crystal (dragon within stirs, resonating with the soul crystal), and Nidhogg!Estinien too can use Geirskogul so they're not unique to just us but common among dragoons.

I'd been believing that us as WoL simply copy-paste skills from previous owners. Glad you remind me I was wrong

Hmm...not really. BoTD (and such) are related to the relationship between you and Middy, not the soul crystal; it's not Estinien who uses Geirskogul, it's Nidhogg.

[Mysterysword]

Scholar abilities are also our own for now, we're the only one able to channel tier IV black magic, and so on.

You know, I've always wondered about the SCH job abilities, which it seems the Leveilleurs can cast as well. More specifically, Sacred Soil, and it looks like they can cast a far more powerful version of the spell (lasts for longer than 15 seconds and actually completely blocks attacks as opposed to letting 90% of them through). Although the only time I've ever seen any of them use it is to block Bahamut's attacks. Still, their Sacred Soil seems far more effective than ours.

Man, even when we're special, the Leveilleurs are even more special than us!

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You know, I've always wondered about the SCH job abilities, which it seems the Leveilleurs can cast as well. More specifically, Sacred Soil, and it looks like they can cast a far more powerful version of the spell (lasts for longer than 15 seconds and actually completely blocks attacks as opposed to letting 90% of them through). Although the only time I've ever seen any of them use it is to block Bahamut's attacks. Still, their Sacred Soil seems far more effective than ours.

Man, even when we're special, the Leveilleurs are even more special than us!

Considering they studied in a very prestige school, it shouldn't be too surprising.

To be fair, many of our job abilities are unique to us (whether we started their use or rediscovered them); Blood of the Dragon and its abilities are entirely new, for example (actually, I think Battle Litany is as well), and right now we're the only one who can use the Dreadwyrm Trance. Scholar abilities are also our own for now, we're the only one able to channel tier IV black magic, and so on.

Not true. A few job abilities are used by NPCs and enemies as well. Presence of Mind is used by the Kobold NPC during the Black Mage LV45 quest, Fire IV is used by zombie Black Mages in Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) and Weeping City, and Holy is used by zombie White Mages in the lost city as well.

[PArcher]

Considering they studied in a very prestige school, it shouldn't be too surprising.



Not true. A few job abilities are used by NPCs and enemies as well. Presence of Mind is used by the Kobold NPC during the Black Mage LV45 quest, Fire IV is used by zombie Black Mages in Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) and Weeping City, and Holy is used by zombie White Mages in the lost city as well.

I didn't say all were unique to us (I mean, we learn White magic from other White Mages...). And the zombie BLM are, well, zombies.

[Mysterysword]

Considering they studied in a very prestige school, it shouldn't be too surprising.

Yes, but I'd thought all the SCH job abilities were forgotten abilities that we only knew about because of our job stone/fairy. Although oddly enough, Louisoix has been called a scholar, but whether or not that's actually the same thing as a SCH, given that he can cast Sacred Soil, is the question. And presumably the twins are ACNs.

[WhiteArchmage]

On the case of the Levellieurs, shield spells seem to be more common AND potent in Sharlayan, since we've seen Y'shtola use a different version of Collective Unconsious (as a CNJ, even!) that stops attacks completely, the Levellieurs version of "Sacred Soil" may not even be the SCH skill itself but a Sharlayan variant (as for HOW the Sharlayans knew about it...well, that's their whole shtick, gathering knowledge and then not telling anyone about it, at least until grandpa Louisoix rebelled) or a completely different spell that works similarly.

[Jonnycbad]

They also combined their twin grimoires to form some super grimoire that probably buffed it. Also it was a 'Twincast' spell so it uses the Aether of two. Also, it's a plot device, you can never compare to in-game effects.

[Jonnycbad]

Hmm...not really. BoTD (and such) are related to the relationship between you and Middy, not the soul crystal; it's not Estinien who uses Geirskogul, it's Nidhogg.

I don't remember there being mention of Midgardsrmr at all during DRG quests. Source? Also, BoTD abilities come from being the Azure Dragoon and drawing power from the Eye of Nidhogg. You don't need to be in actual possession of the Eye to gain its benefits. When Estinienhogg uses Geirskogul it's presumably because Estinien's body has the Eyes on it and can use the ability, because Nidhogg doesn't use it in Dragon form. Estinienhogg also uses Jump abilities which indicate he is tapping into Estinien's gifts but tainting them with his own aether, which is why his geirskoguls and jumps are purple/blacl.

Geirskogul is basically a technique whereby an Azure Dragoon taps into the aether of Nidhogg and releasing a bit of the Dravanian's aether as a blast from the tip of the lance and BoTD is tapping into the aether from the Eye of Nidhogg through the Soul Crystal as a conduit to enhance our abilities. Presumably, Wheeling Thrust and Fang&Claw require great strength and agility and the Dragoon requires the extra energy from a Dravanian to execute them, which is the lore reason as to why they are gated behind BoTD. No eye of nidhogg=no BoTD abilities. They explain in the story that what makes Azure Dragoons different from regular Dragoons is they can tap into Nidhogg's Eye no matter where its location is. That being said, BoTD/BL/Geirskoul all stem from summoning forth that power without being controlled by Nidhogg's rage.

[PArcher]

If we were tapping into Nidhogg's Aether as DRG, we'd be powerless now since the Eyes are drained (also, its never mentioned that the WoL is actually drawing upon the Eye as a DRG at all; heck, Estinien only does it with the Eye in his possession, not from afar). The blue aetheric tails are very symbolic of Midgardsormr's power, especially now that we have the purple being of Nidhogg (heck, in theory the WoL DRG can use a lesser Akh Morn since that is tied to the Celestial Dragons. Would be interesting to see that happen). I mean, we also have Dragonsong Dive to point to some concrete evidence we're drawing upon our bond with Middy...