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    So who else thinks he's going to try to hijack the Omega for the Ala Mhigan Resistance? (assuming it won't be used as an anti-Nidhogg weapon instead)
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    Does Ilberd even know about Omega? He struck me as a pretty low-level pawn in everything. But, assuming he does, I'm not sure how he'd go about getting his hands on it; with Teledji gone, it's completely in Alliance hands, and he's more or less on the run from them.

    I could totally see it being used in the Main Scenario or the Warring Triad stuff, though. Hopefully it's not just a dropped plot thread.
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    Firsts of all add "spoilers" plis if this related about the end of 3.2

    Getting back to the thread, not sure sure how. The concept of the mask was well done, given that Ilbeld is probably on the blacklist specially of the ala mhigan resistance. Killing one of own men and that was a dear friend of someone highly involved on the resistance is not good.
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    We haven't heard anything about Omega since it was mentioned back in, what... 2.2? Presumably it's still a scrap heap buried in Cartenau.

    If it shows up in the hands of Ilberd, of all people, I will call shenanigans.
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    I think SE is waiting to play the Omega card. He's usually the ultimate of endgame bosses so introducing him in the first few expansions is far too early in the overall story. His discovery in Cartenau was a clever bit of foreshadowing for when he finally does get used/activated but I don't think it'll be for a while yet. The earliest I would expect is towards the end of the next expansion as this is roughly when FFXI saw Omega as well. Who knows though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    We haven't heard anything about Omega since it was mentioned back in, what... 2.2? Presumably it's still a scrap heap buried in Cartenau.
    Though Cartenau keeps getting mentioned, Lucia specifically mentioned it before the Grand Melee, which has me thinking Ishgard is aware of the situation... Which has me leaning further towards a "Ishgard may want to use this legendary dragon killing weapon" situation... Depends somewhat on what Omega was truly used for, we've had claims it was to stop and capture Bahamut (the Primal), but given we know Bahamut was once just a regular old dragon, I could see a twist being that Omega was used to kill Bahamut, and either something else contained the Primal, or they updated Omegas software for the job... Either way, I can see Ishgard going "This would be great to stop Nidhogg...", though I can't see that going down too well with anyone...

    As for Ilberd... I think he is caught up in Y&Ps plot... Specifically that mask at the end of 3.2... No idea what that's about, but given Y&P are with the Ala Mhigan Resistance (though where I have no idea, Ala Mhigo is far too far IMO, I'm incline to say Paglth'an given the proximity to Ul'dah) and Ilberds goals, I can see him being in that neighborhood. Perhaps the mask is just a mask and he is trying to hide his identity from them, or maybe the mask is The Mask and Ilberd will be voiced by Jim Carrey in future... Who knows... Might not even have been Ilberd...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji View Post
    Does Ilberd even know about Omega? He struck me as a pretty low-level pawn in everything. But, assuming he does, I'm not sure how he'd go about getting his hands on it; with Teledji gone, it's completely in Alliance hands, and he's more or less on the run from them.

    I could totally see it being used in the Main Scenario or the Warring Triad stuff, though. Hopefully it's not just a dropped plot thread.
    The Eorzean Alliance may well end up aiding Ishgard against Nidhogg's Final Chorus. So if they don't unearth Omega to combat the vengeful great wyrm, that would provide ample opportunity for him and other turncoat Crystal Braves to steal it right from under them.
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    With an Ascien's help, I can Ilberd shown how to operate Omega. Just like Ultima, Omega will probably lose control
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    With an Ascien's help, I can Ilberd shown how to operate Omega. Just like Ultima, Omega will probably lose control
    The thing you're forgetting though, is we have no idea how intact Omega really is. After all, look at Ultima Weapon - it was extensively rebuilt by the Garleans to make it functional, so what parts of it were original Allagan tech and what was Nero's magitek additions was unclear. Omega may be completely inoperable and would require extensive reconstruction to bring back online - something I doubt is beyond the limited capabilities of Eorzean engineers (the only ones would could probably do the job would be Cid and the Ironworks, and it's already clear they would vehemently refuse to even touch such a device, and in fact would chastise and criticize anyone who tried to).

    That leaves the Skysteel Manufactory in Ishgard and well... the limit of their mechanical expertise is forging dragonkiller cannons - refitting an ancient Allagan superweapon would be completely beyond them (the last time they tried building an airship using magitek technology stolen from the Garleans and.. the ship has never worked - they had to resort to bring in Cid and the Ironworks just to fix the issues with it, without success. And the manacutters weren't even built by the Manufactory - they were constructed by Biggs and Wedge using the Manufactory's facilities).

    No, I don't think Omega is going to be anything more than a vague Macguffin mentioned in passing to 'explain' why the Grand Companies are fighting over Carteneau, and won't actually appear in the game itself. But hey, I've been wrong plenty of times before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    The thing you're forgetting though, is we have no idea how intact Omega really is. After all, look at Ultima Weapon - it was extensively rebuilt by the Garleans to make it functional, so what parts of it were original Allagan tech and what was Nero's magitek additions was unclear. Omega may be completely inoperable and would require extensive reconstruction to bring back online - something I doubt is beyond the limited capabilities of Eorzean engineers (the only ones would could probably do the job would be Cid and the Ironworks, and it's already clear they would vehemently refuse to even touch such a device, and in fact would chastise and criticize anyone who tried to).
    There is another...

    ... but, after the World of Darkness, I don't think he'd retrofit an ancient weapon of mass destruction either.
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