Apparently, new player means no one can look anything up anymore

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Ram's breath frontal, and Ram's Keeper circle ice aoe indicator.

These are the moves I meant unlike the red indicators these are virtually instant I wouldn't call them indicators as such. The indicator is the message in the chat log of which colour eye. If you aint near that spot or at that spot you are screwed. With majority of the red indicators you are given a small delay with enough time to move pre Cutters Cry.

[Moomba33]

Lots of people don't research games. They just jump in and play.
I've never researched a 4 man before jumping in myself.

As for players without job stones in 30+ content usually they don't know about unlocking jobs when I ask them about it. Or they're completely silent which could mean they don't care I guess.
You're always free to vote kick players that you feel aren't meeting minimum standards for group play. I do recommend trying to point them in the right direction first though.

[DuskTS]

Whoa, so wait you're telling us that a player was uninformed, unable to play their class and bad at the game in general?
This is... This is hard to believe...

[Midori_Nabooru]

When I began playing (at release) I would have never known I needed to level ACH to become a WHM. I just so happen to befriend another player who told me about these things including relics, Binding Coil of Bahamut, helped me learn AK, WP, etc.. The game is meant to be social. Instead of blasting new players, why not take the time to explain to them about their job crystal, how a fight works, how to get updated gear? This is my first MMO, maybe it is the case for this player as well and they do not realise the broad spectrum of things this game has to offer.

[Rhaja]

I don't expect anyone to look up a dungeon run. Raids and Primals are helpful, but actual experience and the ability to learn are valuable than any guide.

The class to job scenario is atrocious and needs to be fixed. The level 15 requirement needs to go away; all it does is slow people down. Every person I've gotten to join the game is having fun, feeling good about making progress, and then gets stone walled that they HAVE to play another class in order to go back to playing their class. It's a crappy incentive to keep the cross class system, and if someone wants to try another class out they will.

[LalafellDown]

had a run with a few lvl 60 players who didn't know how to play. Can't wait for that leveling potion :/

[Kerii]

I don't expect anyone to look up a dungeon run. Raids and Primals are helpful, but actual experience and the ability to learn are valuable than any guide.

The class to job scenario is atrocious and needs to be fixed. The level 15 requirement needs to go away; all it does is slow people down. Every person I've gotten to join the game is having fun, feeling good about making progress, and then gets stone walled that they HAVE to play another class in order to go back to playing their class. It's a crappy incentive to keep the cross class system, and if someone wants to try another class out they will.

Protip: A party member can do your hunting logs and levequests for you. Another quick leveling method is to follow the low level player around (not in a party) and one shot anything they tag. I hope that solves that issue.

[Anemone_Valesti]

Or doesn't understand how much of a boost being a job vs a class will be.!

This was the case with me when I started playing this game. I was getting wrecked by Titan "Normal" left and right as a conjurer, not even understanding how I couldnt keep up with heals there. Someone realized that I was still a conjurer and immediately let me know about " Jobs ". I also ate AoE's Constantly non stop in Stone Vigil because of this thing called Lag. I now lead a Static in Extreme/Savage Fights because someone took a second to inform me ( And Phone Tethering for the Lag Issue, so I wont say that there are no real hope for them )

There is also the chance that they just didn't care about the information presented to them up to that point, in which case does suck and they will be in for a rude awakening down the road...but still hope remains

Wiiiiiiiiiith that being said....OP are you freaking serious ? Looking up a basic dun run ? 98% of the Duns in the game are Linear, Most mobs should be on the Tank with everyone else to just dodge occasional AoE, and same with the Bosses with little extra mechanics that can be explained in 2 sentences or less. The fact that you think "Any" Player should be looking up guides for "Basic" dungeon is very saddening

Edit: Was just about to ask is there even guides to basic duns. Apparently there is...who would have thought :|

[dragonseth07]

This mentality is so horrible and toxic. No wonder new players have such a hard time.

I'm a new player, and it's not this that makes it hard. Everyone that I've run into while leveling that has had it rough brought it on THEMSELVES.

I started as a Gladiator. I did my research on tanking and my class. I learned about Paladin, and leveled Conjurer and Marauder for cross-class skills. I did the Hall of the Novice.

Why? Because I don't want to struggle and die because I was too lazy to put in the work. All the time and energy I spent doing homework was time spent NOT WIPING IN DUNGEONS.

I look up fights because I need to know how they work. I need to know what I'm getting into so I can help others and lead the fights.

If you die to a mechanic, it is YOUR fault. If you don't know how to play your class, it is YOUR fault.

I have no pity for other new players who can't be bothered to help themselves.

[Rhaja]

Protip: A party member can do your hunting logs and levequests for you. Another quick leveling method is to follow the low level player around (not in a party) and one shot anything they tag. I hope that solves that issue.

I've got the fast leveling thing down since I've had to do it so many times, but it doesn't help the experience any. Each one of them got it done and went on to enjoy the game. It's just such an annoying stone wall that I've had to deal with several times.

Edit: Was just about to ask is there even guides to basic duns. Apparently there is...who would have thought :|

I will admit my friends fiancée needs those guides. Her anxiety spikes really hard so knowing what she's getting into first lets her have fun.