As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Seoulstar]

I'm really wondering when will this end and people will just learn to accept that others will not play how you want them to play. Seriously, this is getting severely old now. I swear a lot of people in this community just can not grasp the concept of just accepting something that has little to no effect on themselves.

[Nekotee]

I have to point out that most argument i have about healer's gameplay are between me as FF14's healer and a group of ex-wow player

They repeat that a healer should keep everyone 100% hp everytime
When I argue that there is no point in healing a dps that won't take unavoidable damage
> Understand active healing... Giving the dps a regen is fine

They are adamant that a healer job is to heal constantly, when I say no a healer is here to keep everyone alive (above 0)

...

Noted that last time I went in Mhach with one of them
He was 30 dps and dead 2 time because too slow to avoid aoe
I was 500 dps never died and same higher hps

A healer that dps got caster dps awareness about pre-positonning and pre-casting
Huge advantage

[Zojha]

I'm really wondering when will this end [...]

Never?

There will always be people who expect others to make the most out of their potential and there will always be people who really would rather stay far below it, be it because of ability, anxiety, laziness or watching netflix on the side. It's an age-old pug conflict that isn't restricted to online-gaming - it can also be observed in group works in school or at work.

For this debate in particular, the solution is easy: Nerf healing. I can assure you, nobody will complain about healers not DPSing if they have to dedicate all their GCDs to healing, rather than jumping around or doing the manderville dance.

[gehrtalert]

Dps or suck. It's not a question.

[Dogempire]

No, the bare minimum, is to Heal first AND do DPS. The Hall of the Novice even tells you this.
It specifically tells you to DPS when no one needs healing. That should be the bare minimum level.
If you can't follow the Hall of the Novice directions, you shouldn't be healing.

Well I've never been to the hall of novice. Besides, you shouldn't force people to DPS if it could mess them up and make them forget that their primary job is healing. The world isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.

[Nekotee]

The whole idea of the healer is keeping the balance
You're not a healing fountain

You ensure that people don't hit 0
You have strong curative spell for that
But you're job is not being a nice person patching your friend with a smile, that is anime fantasy

[KarstenS]

I'm really wondering when will this end.

Good question. In a recently Famitsu interview Yoshida already stated his opinion to playstyles.

Basically it's a game so there is no right answer, so i have a root feeling where i think players should be able to play as they like, so i think being able to do the basic rotation or not isn't a factor people should be blamed for. Also, getting grumpy over that everytime you encounter them is meaningless and in my case, i have a mentality where i try to work hard to cover what that person lacks and clear the content as fast as possible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._needs_to_ask/

The big boss has spoken.

[FunkyBunch]

Besides, you shouldn't force people to DPS if it could mess them up and make them forget that their primary job is healing. The world isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.

Then they shouldn't be healing. End of story. The Hall of the Novice was added because people were getting to end game and playing terribly. The Hall of the Novice was SE's way of trying to fix that.
It IS that black and white, if you can't play to the "NOVICE" level you have no business playing with a group of people.

[KarstenS]

End of story.

... is what Yoshida did say. Just read the quote in the post above yours.

[CBellz]

The big boss has spoken.

Of course he's going to diplomatic. He's not going to tell the game's biggest demographic that they're dead weight to the parties they play in. It's just not a smart business move to insult the customers that give you the most revenue. It still doesn't change the fact that this game would be a lot more time efficient if people knew how to actually play it. In dungeons sure, I don't mind seeing people play however they want to play because at the end of the day the run will take maybe 5-10 minutes more than usual. It's in content like Weeping City, where a 30 minute raid becomes a 60 minute slog, where all 24 people in the instance get inconvenienced.