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  1. #81
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    To be honest Black Mage is already Ifrit in a Can. It does the better job of summoning Hellfire on enemies then the Summoner can.

    Me and several people just refer Fire 4 to "Balls of Ifrit".
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  2. #82
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoXehrgeiz View Post
    please don't start threads anymore, oke? all your threads have some kind of cancer in them
    How about you stop trolling every thread you've commented in and actually add to the topic?
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  3. #83
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    Caitlyn's Avatar
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    How about you stop trolling every thread you've commented in and actually add to the topic?
    Just ignore him. He's just trolling/spamming in almost any thread here. Just report him, just in case.
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    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
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    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  4. #84
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Summoner Lv 90
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  5. #85
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    Feli Aiko
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    The Pet system is too limited (and by design, since SE have long said they won't make Pet micromanagement any more complex) for new Egi to be worth it. I don't think Pet Glamour is worth it either. A simple solution could've been to just tweak the existing system to encourage Pet swapping during battle (e.g make the Summon spells oGCD, but with a shared CD among them), so at least they'd be more involved than they are now.
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  6. #86
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    The Pet system is too limited (and by design, since SE have long said they won't make Pet micromanagement any more complex) for new Egi to be worth it. I don't think Pet Glamour is worth it either. A simple solution could've been to just tweak the existing system to encourage Pet swapping during battle (e.g make the Summon spells oGCD, but with a shared CD among them), so at least they'd be more involved than they are now.
    Agreed on this. But to be honest I would like to see the summoner be a summoner. A bit like the one in FFT and many others where go invoke the creature and actually fights by your side causing a big chunk of damage.

    I just don't feel the summoner is actually doing a summoner job if you know what I mean.
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  7. #87
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Agreed on this. But to be honest I would like to see the summoner be a summoner. A bit like the one in FFT and many others where go invoke the creature and actually fights by your side causing a big chunk of damage.

    I just don't feel the summoner is actually doing a summoner job if you know what I mean.
    Well like I said it just expands on the Affliction mage motif that Arcanist was all about. Has little to do with summoning beasts to fight for you.
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  8. #88
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    I was never really fond of FFXI for many reasons but the way they handle the summon image was great. Something like this incorporated into XIV would of been ace



    hope Yoship and co are paying attention
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  9. #89
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    The Pet system is too limited (and by design, since SE have long said they won't make Pet micromanagement any more complex) for new Egi to be worth it. I don't think Pet Glamour is worth it either. A simple solution could've been to just tweak the existing system to encourage Pet swapping during battle (e.g make the Summon spells oGCD, but with a shared CD among them), so at least they'd be more involved than they are now.
    Well I'm not going to call it PS3 limitation but the pet micromanagement decision is really because of controller limitation.

    There are many creative methods to make it work though. One is to have carby as a blank summon. Then you cast get 6 egi summons; 2 tank, 2 single target, 2 AoE. These Egi's will take the place of carby for 30 secs with a minute recast cool down. They have a basic 3 sec attack, buff/debuff, and signature attack that cast right before they disappear. Then drop trance and make it second, non controllable, pet that last for 20 secs.
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  10. #90
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well I'm not going to call it PS3 limitation but the pet micromanagement decision is really because of controller limitation.
    i wouldnt blame controllers per se, its the entire battle system and aoe dodging and such that make this sort of thing complicated, i would probably bash my head into the wall if i had to worry about controlling my pet and my character out of harms way while keeping dps up personally, at least thats how i see it - in some fights i rather prefer to be a one time blast summoner than to watch my pet die several times in the same fight(looking at you first boss of hullbreaker(hard))
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