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    Nanaya's Avatar
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    Shiki Tohno
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Fixed that for you.

    Why? Because to have an effective character one still has to level crafts to make equipment, grind spiritbond to make materia, DoLs to pull up materia and or farm the gil in order to circumvent any of those activities.

    There's still plenty of grinding in this game directly tied to character development.
    So we might as well just abolish character levels then, since there are other things to grind. Forgetting of course that some people don't care to craft, or gather/mine.

    People supporting the incredible amounts of exp you earn through PL parties are painfully short sighted. I'm fine with PLing in theory, but in FFXI style, where the PL's influence only extended to healing/buffing the party. As things stand right now, you'd damn near be a fool not to PL. Not to mention I can only feel pity for people who don't have 50s, since it seems the established norm is becoming, "Need x amount of people for PL party, must have a level 50."

    I hate to beat the long necrotic, dead horse, but they really need to take the good FFXI had, and start running with it. Their new ideas so far leave much to be desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    So we might as well just abolish character levels then, since there are other things to grind. Forgetting of course that some people don't care to craft, or gather/mine.

    People supporting the incredible amounts of exp you earn through PL parties are painfully short sighted. I'm fine with PLing in theory, but in FFXI style, where the PL's influence only extended to healing/buffing the party. As things stand right now, you'd damn near be a fool not to PL. Not to mention I can only feel pity for people who don't have 50s, since it seems the established norm is becoming, "Need x amount of people for PL party, must have a level 50."

    I hate to beat the long necrotic, dead horse, but they really need to take the good FFXI had, and start running with it. Their new ideas so far leave much to be desired.
    I hate to admit it, but this is correct. On Rabanastre, I'd say about 75% of the shouting for parties I see in Uldah are for PL parties. What if I don't want to PL or I don't have a level 50? Think that 25% or less would be on and available and have the level-appropriate classes needed to fulfill the necessary roles to start a party right there and then to grind a beastman stronghold which may or may not be full of PL parties?
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    Sephrick's Avatar
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    Sephrick Markarius
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alkoun View Post
    I hate to admit it, but this is correct. On Rabanastre, I'd say about 75% of the shouting for parties I see in Uldah are for PL parties. What if I don't want to PL or I don't have a level 50? Think that 25% or less would be on and available and have the level-appropriate classes needed to fulfill the necessary roles to start a party right there and then to grind a beastman stronghold which may or may not be full of PL parties?

    You and I must be on different versions of Rab, because I've yet to see a single shout for a PL party.


    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    Just because of that, we should excuse the cheap EXP for DoW/DoM? I don't buy it.
    Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.
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    Sontawila Wila
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    You and I must be on different versions of Rab, because I've yet to see a single shout for a PL party.

    Agreed. And even if it was true, create your own PT.


    Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.
    Definitely. I like PL as is. Don't like it? Don't do it. Not everyone having "fun" while grinding endlessly.
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