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    Train88's Avatar
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    Yo-kai and general RNG

    I think rewards are time gated in FF14 to maximize player life with the game.

    I spent the longest time in Void Ark trying to upgrade my law set on some summoner i never play. Ended up with my full right side in eso and i started on the left side with only the robes from void ark. Boots dropped today though.

    My luck being that bad in Void Ark i switched. I went to work on Yo-Kai because i figured it was a limited time event and there was no real pressure to complete as long as i keep at it. 13 fates, 2 legendary medals with 4 weapons to go. I'm sure because i clear the regular medals between weapons.

    A horse might go for the carrot on a stick but it would only take so long for a human to stop trying. What am i supposed to think here?
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    Welcome to the world of MMOs, they are grinds and a time sink.

    The Yokai event will take 700-800 fates to get all the weapons, it is a average of 30% drop rate for the legendary medals.

    As for the VA and WC it is all random luck, you can get lucky and get your drops quickly or it could take awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Train88 View Post
    A horse might go for the carrot on a stick but it would only take so long for a human to stop trying. What am i supposed to think here?
    I think if people are having fun they would play the game long enough to get the rewards. If grinding fates for yokai weapons isn't fun. The solution shouldn't be to make the yokai wpns need only 1 token and make the tokens drop 100%. The solution should be to make fates more fun to do. Or to give more than 1 objective for getting the weapons. This is NOT what the developers are even trying to do. The developers are just simply upping the drop rate on all the content instead of making the content more fun. Which is why people are getting "burnt out" regardless how much gear and glamour the devs are throwing at them.

    If your not having fun doing 24 man raids and fates, im not sure how having yokai-themed weapon glamour is going to fix that for you.
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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 08-29-2016 at 02:09 AM.

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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    I think if people are having fun they would play the game long enough to get the rewards. If grinding fates for yokai weapons isn't fun. The solution shouldn't be to make the yokai wpns need only 1 token and make the tokens drop 100%. The solution should be to make fates more fun to do. Or to give more than 1 objective for getting the weapons. This is NOT what the developers are even trying to do. The developers are just simply upping the drop rate on all the content instead of making the content more fun. Which is why people are getting "burnt out" regardless how much gear and glamour the devs are throwing at them.

    If your not having fun doing 24 man raids and fates, im not sure how having yokai-themed weapon glamour is going to fix that for you.
    I will admit a new glamour can help me get excited for a class, even if its only for a short time. Got all giddy over a boxing set idea for my monk and took me a few levels though all in all, burned out and done for now. That a Dragons Dogma online has been eating up a lot of time.

    Which kinda leads me to another point I agree with, if the grind is fun people have no issue. Not saying everyone but for those of us who grind out the needed mats for our relic and gear only to be greeted with ANOTHER grind, its hard for some of us to want to go on. If it had come at a later time it wouldn't be as bad. Even though they gave us like 3 months to do it, a grind is a grind. They could have easily made the Yokai event fun by bringing in new or special events like what they did for New Years, or they could have brought in new GATEs or anything. Instead they chose the easy route and stuck it back to something we have been doing for so long. We ran these fates as we leveled, we ran these fates for our first Relic atmas and now we run em again for Yokai medals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
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    Tbh, if there's gonna be a grind it needs to either: 1) Quick. Which might disqualify it from being a "Grind" but I qualify the Moonfire Faire event a "grind" in some reguards and it was pretty quick. Or 2) Fun.
    SE could edit this event fairly easily to make it quick, but sadly they can't do anything with it to make it fun at this moment. Hopefully they try to make it better in future events..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    I think if people are having fun they would play the game long enough to get the rewards.
    Yes! The issue is that all content will lose enjoyment value with repetition. By nature, PvE content more so than PvP content, as everything in PvE is necessarily scripted (which also says a lot about the base enjoyment value of PvP in this game...).

    I dunno. Even if FATEs were a little more fun, I'd probably draw my threshold at 100 for a given item tops.
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    It would have been fine if the drop rate for legendary medals was a bit higher. I feel bad for people who are just starting this because it'll be almost impossible for most to complete this now on some server since fates are all but dead.
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    It doesn't do them much good to make rewards so hard to get. People lose interest and start other games.

    I give up.

    30% legendary medal at 17 medals should be 6. i am at 3. There is some behind the scene mechanic here which is screwing up my game.
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    Last edited by Train88; 08-29-2016 at 04:09 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Train88 View Post
    It doesn't do them much good to make rewards so hard to get. People lose interest and start other games.

    I give up.

    30% legendary medal at 17 medals should be 6. i am at 3. There is some behind the scene mechanic here which is screwing up my game.
    If people give up on FFXIV because they couldn't get all the rewards from a seasonal event when it was clearly stated that not everyone will be able to get all the rewards, then they probably weren't that much interested in FFXIV to start with.

    I think MMO gaming is mostly about how you manage your spare time and what you concentrate on. You cannot simply get everything in a MMO. Just find the thing that is most important for you and focus on it.

    You could consider me nolifer, I am sitting at +- 8000 hours in the game (well while having social life, school, job and sports but whatever) and even if I would clone myself twice I wouldn't be able to do and get all the things I want.
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    what is the actual purpose of these weapons anyways? I acquired the knives but i have yet to see the real use of them?
    Can we come up with a real solution to useless weapons and gear?
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