Only 1536 apartments per server?

[Lulu89]

I don't really get what's so "anti-social" about not wanting someone else to demolish your 300k investment just because they had a wild hair and felt like it.

It would be like buying a condo only to be told that you were actually just renting it the whole time and now the building owner is kicking you out because he doesn't like that you don't say "hi" to him every time you pass him on the stairwell.
What was the point of your nonsensical walls of non-sequiturs about the "EQ days", anyway? If you had a point you failed utterly at making it.

Again you're making my point for me. Why join a guild and never talk to any one, just setting your self up to be kicked O.o Why join a guild and never get to know it members and work together in helping with each other goals? I make my point every time someone try's to say something like this lol

" I don't want to be kick for something" " I don't like feeling like I have to bow down and kiss the leader ass so I won't be kicked" umm so how about you get to know the ppl 1st O.o again being antisocial Bc they want everything to be solo and for one self so they don't have to feel like they need to talk to other to have fun.. Just play by them selfs.. That what I'm seeing here. " I don't want to buy a room in the FC just Bc then I have to get to know the ppl there so they won't kick me" Then way join one in the 1st place.. Just take FC and guild out of the game all together and go back to just LS like FFXI... Hell gamers had less to QQ over then -_-

My point aside.. All this started Bc most of the ppl here have the idea in there head that there 1536 apartments pre server..

1st the building is in the Houseing Ward..that tell you right there that there 1 in each ward.. And sub ward...

2nd after knowing this that adds up to 12000+ pre town -_- and 36000+ pre server.... If you looked at the pic form the LL you know it was in the Houseing ward.

3rd All they said was There is One building pre town(ward)@ the same time when there showing the pic of it you can see the Houseing wards... That One building ATM pre ward not the main towns. They played us! And ppl are falling for it.

They say town, but show us the building in the Houseing wards.....Each Ward IS a small town >.> after all.

On that note I'm done here.. No point in pushing this when ppl still fell to see that point. Good day and happy hunting!

[Sicno]

If you can't see my point your just as bad. Just Bc there are no open houses, dose not mean there are NO HOUES for sell... You can still buy one.. -_- there are other ways. >_>

And yes true, but what's stoping players? You see it all the time on many server, even more so the bigger one with fewer house to go around.

So you're really endorsing breaking the ToS. And that's your proposed solution. On the official forums. I... have no words.

[Rhysati]

let me spell it out, in more blunt terms. Housing was added later on, and its safe to say it was meant to be a limited commodity. If you cant get a house because of your server choices, you traded privileges, you traded faster Q times for no housing space. Your choice, not SE's. Don't blame them for a choice you made.

People need to stop saying this BS. I rolled on Balmung at release. Why? Because it was the main RP server. How was I supposed to know that it would become super overcrowded with a constant stream of new people coming in even years down the line? In two decades of playing MMOs and being on the RP server, I've never experienced this.

[Khemorex]

If you think the mistake began with the Personal Housing system, you're sorely mistaken.

The problem is STARTING with a public instancing system on an infrastructure that could not support four times as many players as they initially anticipated. Everything else has been bandaids since then.

They should have started with the apartment system, then moved onto FC and Private housing, but Yoshida was married to a promise that was made back in 1.xx - and instead of abandoning it, he developed himself into a corner he's not getting out of for another three years.

Its always easy to "talk afterwards" and make comments on something after its been released :P

[Alleo]

Again you're making my point for me. Why join a guild and never talk to any one, just setting your self up to be kicked O.o Why join a guild and never get to know it members and work together in helping with each other goals? I make my point every time someone try's to say something like this lol

Everyone in a FC is only human which means drama can start over the smallest things..I had my share of people that were quite nice at the beginning but turned out to be jerks..At the same time things change and a FC that was nice at the beginning can turn bad over time. Sometimes RL stuff happens that can change someone or the leaders stops playing, another gets the lead and shows their true face..there are lot things that can happen to make you loose your room and a lot of them have nothing to do with being anti-social...

We also don't know if its only one building for each city or one building for each ward. The letter did not give any specific information about it and the translation also only shows the picture that tells us nothing..would it be nice if each ward and sub-ward had one? Yes, but we cant say for sure.

In the end this could have been the housing content with instanced rooms..and yet they choose something that is still limited.

Its always easy to "talk afterwards" and make comments on something after its been released :P

But if we don't talk about it afterwards than nothing can change. ^^ If you are new at a job and learning your tasks but nobody ever tells you that it might be wrong or that you could do it better in a different way than you will never get better since most of the time you wont notice your own mistakes.. The people at SE are only humans too and thus can make wrong decisions. We pay them our money every month so I do think that we have the right to say if we don't like something. Do they have to change it? No. But we also don't have to like it .

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Sorry, but I disagree. *ALL* servers need more wards, not just Balmung. Sure Balmung is the most populated, but the players made it that way. I am sorry to sound harsh, but If you want to play on the most poulated server then you have to also have to deal with problems caused by that over population.

SE shouldn't devote resources to creating workarounds/differences for some servers just because of player created problems. Although I do believe that turning off any transfers at all to Balmung would help out a lot...

See, I think the best solution would be to answer the demand based on need. Some servers simply have no need of more wards, so they could take those and give larger servers an extra one or two. If those smaller pop servers ever increase in popularity, they add additional ones in a coming patch. This way, they aren't wasting server space on underused wards and addressing the problem for larger pop servers. Ultimately though, I do agree with you. There are downsides to being on a heavily populated server. This is one of them. But this whole system is a complete mess regardless.

[Khemorex]

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i dont mind if people have demands or opinions.
but not everything is a mess or whatever. People are trying to make it sound like its the end of the world :P
like other alrdy mentioned some stuff is just overpopulated ^^

but in the ends its for the devs to decide to get the best out from the infrastructure they have.
and do the best for all of us , not just people on the forums :P

[Tint]

Everyone in a FC is only human which means drama can start over the smallest things..I had my share of people that were quite nice at the beginning but turned out to be jerks..At the same time things change and a FC that was nice at the beginning can turn bad over time. Sometimes RL stuff happens that can change someone or the leaders stops playing, another gets the lead and shows their true face..there are lot things that can happen to make you loose your room and a lot of them have nothing to do with being anti-social...

it can even get worse than losing just the room. the leader can lock you out of the FC house. if you have a room in that house you can't enter it anymore. if you can't enter it you can't remove the furniture. as long as furniture is inside you can't abandon the room. when you can't abandon the room you can't leave the FC.

when you have a FC room the leader of the FC can held you hostage inside the FC. losing the 300k investment and some of the furniture for being kicked is still better than this.

there was a story were the FC leader was away for a couple of months, just logging in once in a while to keep the leader status. the FC grew bigger and bigger in that time, people were of course not "anti-social". then the leader came back, took the stuff of the FC for himself, kicked most of the people out of the FC and removed the right to enter the FC building for the few people left. they were not able to remove their FC room and couldn't leave the FC. but can't find the topic... D:

[Atoli]

Not getting into the debate of FC room vs apartement.

Just wanted to ask: can you have a house AND an apartement on one character, like you can have a house and a FC room?
I really like the social aspect of the apartements, the lobby and all that gives off a student dorm vibe
But I won't give up my house before Ishgard housing finally comes around ._.

[MihaelB]

but can't find the topic... D:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Estate-Access