Only 1536 apartments per server?

[birdy_reene]

let me spell it out, in more blunt terms. Housing was added later on, and its safe to say it was meant to be a limited commodity. If you cant get a house because of your server choices, you traded privileges, you traded faster Q times for no housing space. Your choice, not SE's. Don't blame them for a choice you made.

[AnaviAnael]

let me spell it out, in more blunt terms. Housing was added later on, and its safe to say it was meant to be a limited commodity. If you cant get a house because of your server choices, you traded privileges, you traded faster Q times for no housing space. Your choice, not SE's. Don't blame them for a choice you made.

Which would be BS. Why make a feature so many want in this game be limited? Again, this is not soley a Balmung/Gilgamesh issue. A lot of servers have this problem.

[Zojha]

Which would be BS. Why make a feature so many want in this game be limited?

Moreover, why constantly increase housing opportunities with more wards, even more wards and the apartments when it's supposed to be limited anyway? If it truly was meant to be limited, there would be no point. It is only logical to assume it is not, in fact, meant to be limited. And that in turn would explain why we get housing stuff thrown at us at events.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

let me spell it out, in more blunt terms. Housing was added later on, and its safe to say it was meant to be a limited commodity. If you cant get a house because of your server choices, you traded privileges, you traded faster Q times for no housing space. Your choice, not SE's. Don't blame them for a choice you made.

Basically "Heck with you, got mine."

I am sure I seen that nonsense argument before last time there was a housing fiasco blowout and as others have said, it is NOT the player's fault for being on Balmung or Gilgamesh before housing was a thing and before anyone knew what housing was gonna be like. It's extremely condescending to blame players for simply being on the "wrong" server at the wrong time and I don't want to hear a backhanded apology either cause I know that is gonna come up. The devs should be banging on corporate's doors demanding more funds so they can have better servers and more instances so we don't have to deal with limitations this and limitations that.


What's going to happen, just like with the extra wards before it, people are going to eat it up once the servers go live, people will flip apartments for prices that would make the Syndicate blush, and we'll have people chiming in to chide people on how it's their fault they were on an overpopulated server or how they should have logged in 5 minutes faster before the previous guy, RL obligations getting in the way or not.

See you next month! And before anyone assumes wrongly, I do have a house with a FC, but I can still understand and sympathize the frustrations of the housing system that's only been getting band-aid fixes.

[Tint]

let me spell it out, in more blunt terms. Housing was added later on, and its safe to say it was meant to be a limited commodity. If you cant get a house because of your server choices, you traded privileges, you traded faster Q times for no housing space. Your choice, not SE's. Don't blame them for a choice you made.

taking the numbers from the inofficial census... the average server has 5-8k active people, the smallest 4k. there is NO server wich is small enough so everyone can have a house...

[birdy_reene]

taking the numbers from the inofficial census... the average server has 5-8k active people, the smallest 4k. there is NO server wich is small enough so everyone can have a house...

Well, I'll bet if you make an alt on Zalera, and go to the housing district, goblet Ward 11 has only 7 houses in it, and ward 12(I live in ward 12) has 3. That's a lot of open, unsold lots. There is spotted housing still open in the new wards in LB and mist. Sooooo you explain that one, Housing isn't a problem on every server

[AnaviAnael]

Well, I'll bet if you make an alt on Zalera, and go to the housing district, goblet Ward 11 has only 7 houses in it, and ward 12(I live in ward 12) has 3. That's a lot of open, unsold lots. There is spotted housing still open in the new wards in LB and mist. Sooooo you explain that one, Housing isn't a problem on every server

RMT spam isn't a problem on every server, that doesn't mean I feel SE should ignore it.

[Jynx]

let me spell it out, in more blunt terms.

No let me spell it out for you in more blunt terms.

Square Enix has bungled the housing situation from the very start. The second they gave individual players the ability to purchase company housing plots. Every single thing they have done from then has been trying to put band-aids on a burgeoning system they have no chances to control or provide for players as with their original promises. They continue to put these stop-gap measures into place when they should be swallowing the hard pill and admitting they goofed and need to rework the whole system from the ground up.

But they wont, they have no incentive to fix the system properly when they can continue to mangle the current system.

[Hyrist]

No let me spell it out for you in more blunt terms.

Square Enix has bungled the housing situation from the very start. The second they gave individual players the ability to purchase company housing plots. Every single thing they have done from then has been trying to put band-aids on a burgeoning system they have no chances to control or provide for players as with their original promises. They continue to put these stop-gap measures into place when they should be swallowing the hard pill and admitting they goofed and need to rework the whole system from the ground up.

But they wont, they have no incentive to fix the system properly when they can continue to mangle the current system.

If you think the mistake began with the Personal Housing system, you're sorely mistaken.

The problem is STARTING with a public instancing system on an infrastructure that could not support four times as many players as they initially anticipated. Everything else has been bandaids since then.

They should have started with the apartment system, then moved onto FC and Private housing, but Yoshida was married to a promise that was made back in 1.xx - and instead of abandoning it, he developed himself into a corner he's not getting out of for another three years.

[Jynx]

They should have started with the apartment system.

Having physical housing for companies makes sense, personal player housing obviously didn't. They from day 1 stated that personal housing would (Obviously) be a totally seperate system, the lazy decision to flip the ownership switch to individual players is what damned them from that day forward.

If they continued to develop the personal housing system as a separate system that could accommodate all players they wouldn't be in this mess. Wether they did it first or last isn't the issue, it's the fact they got lazy and just decided to repurpose the current FC housing system.