Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Bebekurenai]

My group is made up of a DRK, a WHM, and a SMN..... who had Ifrit out. I kinda shrugged that off, some people prefer him even though he doesn't have Contagion.

For me, it's the other way round. I shrug it off when people have Garuda out fulltime, which, given for trash Contagion is not even worth using cause things just melt away (or should), I see as such a waste.
Yes I know, a Bane on a group buffed with Raging and Contagion is awesome, but will they last so long really? They will be dead while your buff is still up anyways. I have Ifrit out most of the time and let me tell you, that shield he gives just gives such a nice counter addition. Imagine a group of 6+ enemies hitting on the tank, Radiant Shield up and all those lovely counters... plus his autoattacks I see much superior to Garuda's Wind Blade.
I really even only use Garuda when there's a boss who moves a lot around, or it's such a long fight that I want to make most of Raging Strikes thanks to Contagion.
So yeah, Garuda/contagion for me is purely situational. For fast meltdowns Ifrit clearly is the winner.

[FinaSel]

Got Pharos Sirius on my ninja.

A White Mage is the healer. Before the tank even pulls the first mobs he casts Regen on the tank.
And then on himself.
And then on both DPS.
And then Medica II.


So the tank can't do large pulls, so he is just pulling 1 group at a time.
WHM doesn't appear to be doing any DPS, except for beginning to cast Holy on the zombie spawns before they even appear, missing them every time. Just casting holy at nothing.

So, I thought "Well, at least I won't have to worry about dying!". Right?
Wrong.

First boss, it seems the WHM is only using Regen and Stoneskin over and over.
So first I die. Then second DPS dies.
Tank remains at about 10% HP for the rest of the fight and almost dies, but healer remains at almost full HP. It looked like he was just spam healing himself and Regen everyone else.

This continues for the entire dungeon.

At the final boss, I get the debuff which, unless HP is brought to max, causes confusion.
The healer casts no healing spells on me at all. Right before I became confused, I used Second Wind to regen my own HP and dispell it.

Then it happens again. Still, no healing. Second wind is on cooldown. I use a potion, but it doesn't bring me to full. Get confused right after using Trick Attack. What a waste...

[AnaviAnael]

Did a trial roulette last night with a few friends and got Moggle Mog. We wiped the first pull because someone killed the king. No big deal, right? Mistakes happen. Well, not for the BLM in our group. This was the conversation between her and the monk in our party:

[2:03](BLM) Hey, dips--- who attacked King Mog
[2:03](BLM) Don't do that.
[2:04](MNK) calm your a-- down it was an accident

-Moogles are dead, waiting for Moggle Mog to spawn.-

[2:06](BLM) Now this time, _don't_ attack the boss. Even if it's an 'accident'. Pay attention.
[2:06](MNK) My aoe attack hit him
[2:06](MNK) it was one wipe
[2:06](MNK) dont get triggered
[2:07](BLM) Be a better player.
[2:07](MNK) if you got somewhere to be
[2:07](BLM) Or, in more succint terms
[2:07](BLM) Git gud.
[2:07](MNK) then you shouldnt queue for s---
[2:07](BLM) I don't have somewhere to be. Doesn't mean I should tolerate dumb mistakes from scrubs.
[2:08](MNK) LOL it was one wipe and this b---- got butt hurt
[2:08](MNK) foh
[2:08](MNK) nobody else is crying but you
[2:08](MNK) relax
[2:08](MNK) or cry more if you want.
[2:08](BLM) No thanks, I'll go clear s--- on the first try, instead of wiping the team.
2:09](MNK) lmao ok
[2:09](MNK) gg
[2:09](MNK) Go cry to the next group
[2:09](MNK) sad a-- player

[Lokier]

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That BLM is pretty delusional if the thinks he's gonna do a trial that doesn't wipe on the first attempt in bloody DF... The butt-hurt is real, lmao.

[B0YRaNmA]

I felt this way really hard in my Expert yesterday.

Story time: I main summoner on my alt (who I guess is my main now, since I do everything on them compared to the char I started with..?), and it's one of my favorite jobs in the game, and while I'm not the best player ever, I feel I do a decent job on the class and know how best to use my toolkit. Seeing summoners who don't put effort into the class kind of irks me.

Cue yesterday's Expert Roulette. I zone in to Hullbreaker HM, playing as bard (which is my more relaxing class to play, wasn't feeling too good so didn't want to struggle to perform 100% on summoner, and I know how to play bard well without stressing on it). My group is made up of a DRK, a WHM, and a SMN..... who had Ifrit out. I kinda shrugged that off, some people prefer him even though he doesn't have Contagion.

We get to the first set of mobs, I do my usual rotation and get some of my dots on every one of the raptors so I have higher proc chance on my oGCD. I notice that despite the fact I'm doing my usual, efficient amount of dps (proc'ing like crazy, Barrage'ing Emp Arrow, Sidewinder spam, etc), the raptors are dying really, REALLY slowly. Then I notice the SMN hasn't put up Shadowflare.. or even used DoTs on any one of the raptors. At all. She was just spamming Painflare for the three aetherflow stacks, then going into Trance and spamming Ruin 3... then continuing to spam Ruin 3 even after Trance is off, i.e. she didn't use Deathflare and she's also burning through her MP on a skill that even with a buff on, does way less damage than me on a low-geared bard. And not spreading DoTs.

You know...this sounds exactly like my run of Hullbreaker HM, but mine was PLD, SMN and forgot what healer was. First group of raptor notice that they went down kind of slow...didn't pay no mind, cause like you, I was thinking they were new or upgrading gears. PLD pulled next pack and combine it with the cat, I proceed to take out the cat first cause that post more threat, then proceed to kill the dogs and notice that the dogs still had a lot of hp on them (almost full). Scroll through them and no DOTs on them maybe one or two with the insta DOT, and didn't see it being reapplied through out the whole fight, plus once or twice of that AOE (that light column move), at that point I figured SMN was on cruise control. Afterward, I just left cause I'd rather take the 30 minutes penalty and watch something on TV, then having to carry someone who's just there for tomes and don't find your time important.

[Nuna]

Did a trial roulette last night with a few friends and got Moggle Mog. We wiped the first pull because someone killed the king. No big deal, right? Mistakes happen. Well, not for the BLM in our group. This was the conversation between her and the monk in our party:

Eh, they're both acting immature imo.

[Mysterysword]

[2:06](MNK) My aoe attack hit him

How does 1 AoE connecting result in a wipe? More importantly, why is a MNK using AoEs there in the first place?

That BLM was being a jerk about it, but the MNK was behaving equally stupid.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

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Gotta wonder if our summoner was the same person :x I've literally never seen a summoner do that, at the very least even the worst ones I've seen have put DoTs up on one mob and Bane'd to the others. But this one was just like.... man, when I was telling the story to an FC mate afterward, he said it almost sounded like she bought the char or had someone else level it for her. Idk how someone goes 60 levels and just ignores 70% of a classes' toolkit like that, it's baffling.

For me, it's the other way round. I shrug it off when people have Garuda out fulltime, which, given for trash Contagion is not even worth using cause things just melt away (or should), I see as such a waste.
Yes I know, a Bane on a group buffed with Raging and Contagion is awesome, but will they last so long really? They will be dead while your buff is still up anyways. I have Ifrit out most of the time and let me tell you, that shield he gives just gives such a nice counter addition. Imagine a group of 6+ enemies hitting on the tank, Radiant Shield up and all those lovely counters... plus his autoattacks I see much superior to Garuda's Wind Blade.
I really even only use Garuda when there's a boss who moves a lot around, or it's such a long fight that I want to make most of Raging Strikes thanks to Contagion.
So yeah, Garuda/contagion for me is purely situational. For fast meltdowns Ifrit clearly is the winner.

Eh, I see your point. For me, I like Contagion on regular mobs because for larger pulls where my DoTs wear off faster or I need to reapply Bane a time or two more before everything is dead, it helps to have one mob focused for Contagion and then just Bane off of them to the remaining stragglers. And Garuda's still got about as much AoE utility as Ifrit for me - I've just gotten used to a playstyle with her over Ifrit. But I usually don't mind much when someone takes out Ifrit rather than Garuda - I only start really raising eyebrows if someone has Titan out in a four-man.. >>;

[AnaviAnael]

How does 1 AoE connecting result in a wipe? More importantly, why is a MNK using AoEs there in the first place?

That BLM was being a jerk about it, but the MNK was behaving equally stupid.

Yeah, I should have mentioned the MNK was being a dork too, but the BLM just stood out for me lol. What I think happened was the scholars baned onto all the moogles and then someone targeted the wrong mob. King went down pretty fast.

[Kahnom]

How does 1 AoE connecting result in a wipe? More importantly, why is a MNK using AoEs there in the first place?

Actually,after the king spawns,I always perfect balance then spam rockbreaker at the mog group but never ended up wiping or anything.so i gotta guess some dps probably attack the king OR MT ain't seperates the king from the adds group.