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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    I complain because a good MAJORITY purposely wait for nerfs and SE still won't create interesting concepts for the weapons.
    I think that this is one of the biggest issues. I will admit that although I did start the relic, I stopped at one point precisely because I knew it would just get nerfed. If they were to make them reliant on interesting challenges instead of grinds, or perhaps a combination of the two so that there is a decent balance, more players might feel more motivated. My personal issue is that while the relic weapon itself is interesting, the journey and progress has not been, even since 1.0. Sadly, I really am not too sure what can be done to make it all more interesting.

    To those who spent many hours and weeks grinding to get their relic up to now and are legitimately upset that things have been nerfed, people having an easier way to get the weapon does not dismiss your achievement, please do not let it get to you.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I was expecting a nerf about now to ease the time it takes to get it while still making it still something that takes effort, but what we got was a nerf that I wouldn't expect until patch 3.45-3.5 in terms of extremity.
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    Thayos Redblade
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    To those who spent many hours and weeks grinding to get their relic up to now and are legitimately upset that things have been nerfed, people having an easier way to get the weapon does not dismiss your achievement, please do not let it get to you.
    Exactly.

    I just got my 240 relic, and I don't care that the earlier steps were nerfed. This is a strong vertical game, and I've played since 1.x's launch. Of course the earlier steps were going to get nerfed! If this kind of thing really bothered me, then I wouldn't be playing this game.
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Did people honestly expect the original grind to get the i210 to be retained, at a time where you can get far higher ilvl weapons through less strenuous means (PoTD, Ex Trials, 4 A8N clears + Lore)? That would make no sense.
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimen View Post
    I think that this is one of the biggest issues. I will admit that although I did start the relic, I stopped at one point precisely because I knew it would just get nerfed. If they were to make them reliant on interesting challenges instead of grinds, or perhaps a combination of the two so that there is a decent balance, more players might feel more motivated. My personal issue is that while the relic weapon itself is interesting, the journey and progress has not been, even since 1.0. Sadly, I really am not too sure what can be done to make it all more interesting.

    To those who spent many hours and weeks grinding to get their relic up to now and are legitimately upset that things have been nerfed, people having an easier way to get the weapon does not dismiss your achievement, please do not let it get to you.
    Thats what I think a lot of people want. Not just a straight up grind fest of RNG items or tons of tome items. I just wish SE would go back to that type of content. Having a mixture and balancing the two is totally acceptable, I know I would I enjoy that much more.
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  6. #16
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    Windi Skywalker
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
    Complaining is the true endgame.
    We are all destined to become cynical and bittter. Such is life.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    Considering how the relics in 2.X were nerfed gradually over time, I do not understand why the same thing happening in 3.X is a surprise to anyone unless they are new to relic grinds.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    Could be worse, they could have nerfed the 230 step
    LOL just made my day, considering i had the 230 step saved up an entire month before i got to 210, possibly the easiest step besides the 200 one
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  9. #19
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Im one who waited knew this was going to happen anyways and save some gil in the process, if I thought the relic was worth a dam in the grand schemes of things I would grind it out, but my 230 weapon does just fine with getting me threw content already as it stands. /shrug
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    They need to stop making it easyer to get and just make rreilc gear better then or = to raid gear, so we have something to look to, and be happy for. Now a day gamers(the new gen) want everything handed to them on a silver plate and it bs. I'm ok with Tomes being easy, day to day farm..

    But we need something to stay hard and just as good as raid gear out side of raiding. Most of the gamers now a days never played EQ and FFXI when it toke a year to gear out or LV up. You have it easy, that y ppl are pissed. All the work we put in to it don't mein crap after the nerf.

    The relics need to be something we can run all over with and be like yea I got this! Right now relic are just a, "look what I got" and 12weeks l8tr 1/2 the servers got one in 1week after nerf....yaa -_-
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    Last edited by Lulu89; 08-25-2016 at 07:50 AM.

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