Unpopular suggestion: Make raiding (great) rewarding again.

[zosia]

So at what point during this game's raiding tiers did you feel SE had it right with their reward system, that you feel has since been lost? Because a lot of the elements across all tiers have been the same.

- Tome and Raid gear have always been equal ilvls to each other
- Raid weapon has always been +5 ilvls above the Tome one (exception was Gordias, and Binding Coil before they changed it)
- Titles per boss was only exclusive to Savage Second Coil (which currently remains a one-off concept). Yes T13 gave you a title, but I view that as a reward for clearing the whole Coil series (since you needed to clear T5 and T9 respectively in order to access Final Coil). There's a chance clearing all Alex tiers will give a similar reward.

Only elements that weren't present in ARR are the token system (which I recall many asking for), as well as the gear being dyeable (a feature people wanted with the Savage Coil gear).

This is not a debate about what once was. This is a suggestion thread that the current raiding meta is poorly rewarded and that it should be fixed.

I agree with the OP. Raiding gear should have distinct models from normal gear, not just be dyable. All savage gear should be at ilvl 245 (or higher), not just the weapon. There should be a cosmetic reward off of each boss.

Savage Cosmetic Rewards:
1st boss should have a minion
2nd boss should have a title
3rd boss should have furniture drops and crafting mats (these mats could make BoE raiding gear)
4th boss should drop a mount

Savage Gear Rewards:
Distinct gear look from normal mode
Special gear effects, like wisp animations or glowing edges.
A higher ilvl than vendor gear, ilvl245 imo
Progress can be made on you relic via raiding again.


Those rewards should be put in every new savage tier. Those are all pretty standard raid rewards that are seen in every other game. There is absolutely no reason not to have this type of structure in this game.

[FeliAiko]

This is not a debate about what once was. This is a suggestion thread that the current raiding meta is poorly rewarded and that it should be fixed.

The subject title is "make raiding rewarding AGAIN", which implies that it was once this way but isn't anymore for whatever reason. Plus the OP hardly suggested anything substantial, but what appears to be simple glamour-related tweaks.

[zosia]

The subject title is "make raiding rewarding AGAIN", which implies that it was once this way but isn't anymore for whatever reason. Plus the OP hardly suggested anything substantial, but what appears to be simple glamour-related tweaks.

semantics friend, This is a suggestion thread, lets not derail it with with what will inevitably be a fruitless back and forth. If you want to talk about suggestions and the merits of those ideas, I think that is great. Dragging in the past poor reward structure to make some semantic point will only distract from the purpose of this thread.

[StrejdaTom]

The subject title is "make raiding rewarding AGAIN", which implies that it was once this way but isn't anymore for whatever reason. Plus the OP hardly suggested anything substantial, but what appears to be simple glamour-related tweaks.

You are overthinking it, I made this title as a poor joke, nothing else.