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  1. #11
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    Viar's Avatar
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    Ria Arrow
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 60
    Separating IR from FA by two GCD's and from Sidewinder by three GCD's isn't optimal in the slightest. Depends on the fight, of course, but it's a waste.

    Moving potion to IR's place and IR to Blunt Arrow should give you more DPS, and IJ should be able to catch potion before it expires.
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  2. #12
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    What do you guys think about no WM openers? I have seen lots of BRDs use them but don't really see a huge advantage in them.
    For buff alignment they don't make any difference.
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  3. #13
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    What do you guys think about no WM openers? I have seen lots of BRDs use them but don't really see a huge advantage in them.
    For buff alignment they don't make any difference.
    Late reply, but it's a minimal difference. I did 30 openers, 30 3min dummy tests on both WM and non WM (90 tests in total), and the difference was between 30-80. Crit% was identical, and honestly the highest runs were the ones where I lucked on a crit Sidewinder and Straighter Shots towards the end of my opener.

    That being said, the WM openers still won the majority, and was much more consistent as well. I can see a non WM opener being useful for AS4, but that's only if you feel uncomfortable staggering your movement at the start to get the effects of Battle litany in WM.
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    Luna Snowfox
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Choko_TS View Post
    http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

    Your welcome, one of the best bards and guides out there. tho this is pretty much tuned to highest dps as possible, so u'll need some practice on a dummy
    This link doesn't work, do you have an updated one?
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  6. #15
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoogePost View Post
    This link doesn't work, do you have an updated one?
    http://valkyrie-ffxiv.guildwork.com/...ard-bard-guide
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  7. #16
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I played bard before deleting my old character and now I'm getting back to it.

    Do you know if in case I'm not using a dex potion I can keep Minuet on during the double Emp. Arrow opener? I'm currently ilv205 with a ilv235 weapon from Palace of the Dead, no melds whatsoever. I'm hitting 1250ish DPS with my current rotation (a flawed double Empyreal Arrow opener I came with on my own - no pots, no party, nothing but the bard skills).

    I usually see my numbers going through SSS and calculating the damage output through a link posted on the forums a while ago, is that ok?
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 08-30-2016 at 11:10 AM.

  8. #17
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I played bard before deleting my old character and now I'm getting back to it.

    Do you know if in case I'm not using a dex potion I can keep Minuet on during the double Emp. Arrow opener? I'm currently ilv205 with a ilv235 weapon from Palace of the Dead, no melds whatsoever. I'm hitting 1250ish DPS with my current rotation (a flawed double Empyreal Arrow opener I came with on my own - no pots, no party, nothing but the bard skills).

    I usually see my numbers going through SSS and calculating the damage output through a link posted on the forums a while ago, is that ok?
    I don't use Krietor's exact opener either, but if you're going to follow his, I'd say you can keep WM on if you'd like- since you aren't activating the potion you don't need to double-weave the pot with IR. So it would be up to you if you really want that one auto-attack (personally I don't think it's worth it)
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