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    Player
    Vivi_Bushido's Avatar
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    Hott Cocoa
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    Bard Lv 80

    Level 60 Bard Opener/Rotation Please

    Hello, hi!

    So I just got my Bard to level 60 and the change is very dramatic as most people are already aware of, so I'll get straight to the point. What is a solid or good Bard opener rotation at level 60? I'm hearing a lot of conflicting opinions about MW being useful and useless, and I'm very confused if I should leave it on all the time, or if I should be stance dancing.

    Opinions and suggestions on how to play with the new skills would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
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    Iz Lemon
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I haven't got my bard to 60 so can't answer your main question, but no one is saying wanderer's minuet is useless. There are certainly lots of people that don't LIKE it, but it is definitely not useless. Your rotation will be based around having wander's minuet up whenever you're not moving, really.
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Bard Lv 100
    Well I can tell you what I use when I'm not being a lazy bard. It's not perf but... it works for now.

    WM prepull
    IR + B4B + RS + HS (yes all at once)
    Bloodletter
    Windbite
    Venomous Bite
    Barrage + Empyreal Arrow
    Straight Shot
    Heavy Shot
    right before the DOTs all fall off I use Iron Jaws for a bit more length to the buffed DOTs.

    then it's wait for SS/BL/EA procs.
    In there somewhere I cast Flaming Arrow, usually after the first SS. I tend to forget though (bad bard), but you should do it.
    I only use Barrage w/EA...just, if you were wondering to do that or not...

    EDIT: ah yes I just keep WM on for most of the time. I have Feint CC in case I need to move for a GCD or two... anything longer than that and I turn it off to run around or whatever happened, then turn it back on.
    Some people like to turn off WM and stance dance between Empyreal Arrows but I haven't done a proper test of that myself yet...honestly I feel like it would be negligible with the amount of effort but hey, whatever.
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    Tanking Boyfriend
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    Bard Lv 100
    http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

    Your welcome, one of the best bards and guides out there. tho this is pretty much tuned to highest dps as possible, so u'll need some practice on a dummy
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    Luna Snowfox
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Choko_TS View Post
    http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

    Your welcome, one of the best bards and guides out there. tho this is pretty much tuned to highest dps as possible, so u'll need some practice on a dummy
    This link doesn't work, do you have an updated one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoogePost View Post
    This link doesn't work, do you have an updated one?
    http://valkyrie-ffxiv.guildwork.com/...ard-bard-guide
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    I played bard before deleting my old character and now I'm getting back to it.

    Do you know if in case I'm not using a dex potion I can keep Minuet on during the double Emp. Arrow opener? I'm currently ilv205 with a ilv235 weapon from Palace of the Dead, no melds whatsoever. I'm hitting 1250ish DPS with my current rotation (a flawed double Empyreal Arrow opener I came with on my own - no pots, no party, nothing but the bard skills).

    I usually see my numbers going through SSS and calculating the damage output through a link posted on the forums a while ago, is that ok?
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    Last edited by Fevelle; 08-30-2016 at 11:10 AM.

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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I played bard before deleting my old character and now I'm getting back to it.

    Do you know if in case I'm not using a dex potion I can keep Minuet on during the double Emp. Arrow opener? I'm currently ilv205 with a ilv235 weapon from Palace of the Dead, no melds whatsoever. I'm hitting 1250ish DPS with my current rotation (a flawed double Empyreal Arrow opener I came with on my own - no pots, no party, nothing but the bard skills).

    I usually see my numbers going through SSS and calculating the damage output through a link posted on the forums a while ago, is that ok?
    I don't use Krietor's exact opener either, but if you're going to follow his, I'd say you can keep WM on if you'd like- since you aren't activating the potion you don't need to double-weave the pot with IR. So it would be up to you if you really want that one auto-attack (personally I don't think it's worth it)
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    Pande Monium
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    Odin
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    Another guide

    One empyreal opener

    Krietor's guide is double Empyreal, was posted by Choko_TS

    A lot of theorycraft
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