Do YOU think we'll get a new Tank and/or Healer in 4.0? And vice versa.

[Ametrine]

They should just add another tier to job specializations:
Level all healers to unlock super healy job
Level all tanks to unlock super tank job
Level all ranged for super ranged job
Level all melee for super melee job

We already have players speeding through and complaining about ARR to get to the new HW jobs. Suddenly that majority of players being forced to grind jobs to MAX level to even function in late content would be an absolute disaster.

And you know that it would end up that way as for these jobs to be worthwhile, they would need an edge over the current ones.. So, either random players would be OP, or content would be tooled for these 3rd tier jobs.


And yes, Final Fantasy has done this before with certain jobs having only been unlocked by having a ton of other's maxed, but it would just break FFXIV. We would all have to be Onion Knights!

[Windi]

"Onion Knight" Sounds like a really fun class to play as.

[Ametrine]

"Onion Knight" Sounds like a really fun class to play as.

Onion Knight is the master job in certain FF's that use the job system. You can equip any skills, magic, gear, and weapons, and the stat growths are outrageous, initially pathetically low, then jumping to game breaking heights once you start hitting the 30's range.

It's the best, but it would never work in FFXIV.

[ADVSS]

Onion Knight is the master job in certain FF's that use the job system. You can equip any skills, magic, gear, and weapons, and the stat growths are outrageous, initially pathetically low, then jumping to game breaking heights once you start hitting the 30's range.

It's the best, but it would never work in FFXIV.

lol instead of 10 additional cross class skills from classes you get 10 job skills and the weapon you equip determines the main catagory list of weaponskills and cd up tll 50. boom onion knight

I see alot of lancer onion knights going deliverance,fellcleave, fistsoffire, darkside, bloodweapon, hallowedground, et al

[Shurrikhan]

I always thought Dancer could be a nice alternate job off rogue...

I remember people suggesting that, actually, on one of those 'See the 1.x weapon chart? How can we use it to guess upcoming classes' threads when people were debating whether the same class could do justice to both Thief and Ninja. I think they were primarily using the aesthetic of curved daggers, possibly connected via chains (so, chain blades?), which would then usually be covered by a shawl.

With enough revision to the class system, I could see it working. Two sides of the same coin, both stemming from the finesse that befits daggers, and both with their own sense of flourish or theatrics. I tend to imagine classes, if revamped at all, as having a number of gameplay-creating/affecting traits, a number of which are cross-classable; the job is then able to take cross-class traits newly from its job traits, in addition to (only) its affinitive classes and its source class, but has a smaller total available than that source class. I imagine there would be quite a few viable builds by which a Dancer could make use of earlier rogue traits, or split off and take Pugilist or Conjurer traits, etc., whatever its cross-classes may be. It's just a question of whether that connection between that combined gameplay and lore of what it means to be a Rogue somehow fits Dancer, and whether its better off spending some time as a Rogue originally. Some takes on its lore may let that pay off; others will not.

However, at this point I feel like it would probably be easier for development and more fitting to most players for it to be a class-less job, making use of its own weapon, such as war-fans, chain blades, or a (battle!) shawl.

Just my two cents. Imagine away for yourself.

[AlphaFox]

I have to admit, a quick google search and Fan Blades seem like they would be a pretty sweet addition, though I admit when compared to our current healers, seems a lot more sadistic :3

[Duelle]

I have to admit, a quick google search and Fan Blades seem like they would be a pretty sweet addition, though I admit when compared to our current healers, seems a lot more sadistic :3

I'll chime in and say that DNC could also work as the evasion tank some people have been asking for (obviously not entirely dependent on evasion, but using evasion and grazing as part of its mitigation).

[ADVSS]

Fan-dancers are amazingly alluring! I could dig either role, though their insane booty shaking skills were used as debuffers in fftactics, not sure really in 5, some attack magic in 6 never played 11 but im guessing it was a debuffer, etc. in tactics it was the female inverse of the male bard, yeah there were gender locked jobs in fft, those two only iirc. so in that game, the bard buffed and whatnot with songs while dances from the dancer did the oppositte for the enemy army. As far as enmity and tanking goes, this job would certainly grab attention from foes

[iBerserker]

in my opinion I don't think we will get a tank or healer I'd say 2 dps though, so as of now we have the jobs that takes the main stats of 3 tanks=(vitality), 3 healers=(mind), 3 dps=(dexterity), 2 dps=(strength) and 2 dps=(intelligence) 1 of these dps will be samurai (strength) and the other will be red mage (intelligence) this way it will be 3 jobs on all main stats if samurai and red mage is not the next jobs then it'll be these 2 new dps that will use the main stats of strength and intelligence.

[shao32]

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nah nah, whe need 2-3 new jobs based on piety, whe dont have one yet ;p

now for real, the jobs cant be decide for her main stat, tanks use vit but they share her ap with str and a few months ago all are full str, the game need new jobs in certain roles depending of the end game, and for now the logic say us whe need a OT a MELEE and a OH to have a balance when whe making a team, 1 per role.