Older Content Should still be relevant.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

"find a pf or fc that helps you": i couldnt convince my fc to help me synced, imagine to convince random strangers, some like the challenge but they simply wont waste their time for no chance of reward for a stranger.

I never said it would be easy to find people to do this kind of content with. and this just solidifies the fact that people don't want to do old content.

"the new tomestones would force players to do that content": not really, the idea of those new tomes would be to add a new alternate way to get things (not to eliminate the ones existing)

It would force the people who do raid to do it, because it would add another way to get more gear faster. If I was raiding on the current next tier and this was implemented with the 3rd installment of Alexander, I'd be obligated by my raid static to do this roulette to help gear out faster. And this wouldn't effect just me, but every person who raids hardcore. This kind of reward is not needed.

"use df": not too much people (waits of 2hs or more) and if it pops most of the people will be new.....disaster;

This speaks volumes of the people who don't want to re-visit out-dated content. If there was as many people that want this, then you'd be able to see a bigger number of people in DF and less waits.

[Zojha]

And this wouldn't effect just me, but every person who raids hardcore.

So...hardly anyone.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

My Comments are bad.

Funny comment isn't funny, and thanks for cherry picking a random sentence without actually giving anything to the actual topic of conversation...

But just so you are clear, anyone who raids should be taking it seriously enough to cap their tomes every week and gearing their job to the best of their ability. Hardcore, midcore or casual. If theres another tomestone that has to be cap'd every week/month, Its just more required work to not be a burden on your static. I'm all for giving insentives to do the content the way it was meant to be done, but it needs to be other things like glam/minions/mounts...

[Zojha]

Rambling of a person with stockholm syndrome towards their static who feels the need to change quotes to their liking and is probably mad when it happens to themselves.

You're constantly saying:"Have to." That is self-imposed. You are saying SE should not give more opportunities for gearing because you would feel the need to exploit them and that would be more work for you. You know what? If it was glam, minions or mounts, you push minion collectors, glamour enthusiast or mount collectors into that exact situation. But that's okay, right? It doesn't concern you after all. Plus, it directly labels any incentive ineffective because it's a one-time thing, making it dysfunctional in its actual purpose.

You're literally saying it's more important to not inconvenience 1% of the playerbase with an entirely self-imposed issue than fixing an ongoing problem. Wow. Just wow.

[Leigaon]

Having older content still meaning something would be great. These people put a lot of time and effort into this. Just looking at the scenery itself is great, and the design of the bosses I do like. Unfortunately, this game is on such a vertical progression that there's already a pile of old content, and at the rate they're going it is just going to get larger and larger. The monthly caps, perform the same solution as someone who mentioned relics. They're just spread out temporarily rather than in one large chunk. There's a few scenarios where the idea, though a very good baseline and start, will come back to the same results no matter what. This isn't so much of the design of it, but it's because of the one major flaw that cannot be patched in this game. The players.

Due to Weekly lock outs then free lot for older content we can already remove the veteran players who have ran this countless times and can go the rest of their days without seeing Scylla again. You could make it so the tomes give out something the others don't, but then eventually someone will complain and the vocal minority will request it be obtained alternate ways for those who can't play so much a month. To counter that you could make it so the items don't cost so many, but then you'll have them obtained quicker and their need will go down quicker. I'm not disagreeing with the idea completely, I do feel the older content should be respected a lot more. I just contradict myself so much that when I find an answer, there's a BUT right there. The trick is to take what the weight of the good is vs the bad and see which will come with a better outcome.

If you by chance happen to make so the need for the monthly cap is there, it will help. Still, you'll find those who burn through it and get tired of it. Mix that with someone who ends up finding the most time efficient way to cap, that will cut down the timeframe of "Anytime" and make it like the other things, you have X amount of time to stay with the masses.

I think a lot of it comes from the lack of horizontal progression mixed with how quickly you can clear these things. I remember when Sycrus came out, I did the quest and decided to seek for the last hour before work. I got into the last boss and..we won since they wiped a few times and knew what was killing them. I got my item for the week as healer and did it again sometime later that week for completion and was done.

You're right on the need for older content and new players should experience it like others did before them. The monthly cap is a great foundation to build up on.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

You're literally saying it's more important to not inconvenience 1% of the playerbase with an entirely self-imposed issue than fixing an ongoing problem. Wow. Just wow.

If my desire to change this is gonna inconvinent the rest of the minion collectors or mount collectors, then lets just scrap the idea all together. But I'm going to still say, I do not want a savage tomestone with the ability to get relveant gear. godforbid I disagree with the idea.