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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    You doubt me? Show two people summons from XIV and summons from the new FF15. Which do you think excites more? Bigger, badder, more iconic.

    Replace XIV primals with egis as the trials and people be like.. ummm.. that's cute.
    Well, yeah. FFXV is a single player game where said summons are glorified special attacks. Graphic prowess of that magnitude aren't going to happen in MMOs, where servers have to account for potentially thousands of players at once. Not to mention, fighting summons of that size means you'll barely see above their knee even in full zone out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Well, yeah. FFXV is a single player game where said summons are glorified special attacks. Graphic prowess of that magnitude aren't going to happen in MMOs, where servers have to account for potentially thousands of players at once. Not to mention, fighting summons of that size means you'll barely see above their knee even in full zone out.
    They weren't glorified special attacks in XI though. They fought along side a summoner. XI is over a decade old with older servers. You telling me a game over 10 years newer, with better servers, better internet, better technology and more experienced developers can't handle it??



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    They weren't glorified special attacks in XI though. They fought along side a summoner. XI is over a decade old with older servers. You telling me a game over 10 years newer can't handle it??

    Filters for people who don't want to see them or their system can't handle it.
    You mentioned FFXV, not FFXI. That is a rather significant difference. Servers have to presume everyone can handle them because you can't just "turn off" a whole summon like that. FFXI's were fine because they are scaled down. No MMO could ever handle what FFXV's pulling off without crashing in an instant.

    Anywho, I'l agree the Egis leave a lot to be desired, but I suspect this has to do with lore. Summoning an exact lookalike of a Primal kind of rubs in the face of killing Primals. That being said, they could aim to do something with them. Hell, like Summoners use the wind-ups to glam over Egis. Those are adorable, xD
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 08-14-2016 at 09:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    but I suspect this has to do with lore.
    nope yoshi p felt like everyone having a shiva made the job feel less wow, so he made it that we can't summon the real thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    nope yoshi p felt like everyone having a shiva made the job feel less wow, so he made it that we can't summon the real thing.
    Okay, that reminds me of the "Yo dawg" meme.

    "We thought everyone having a summon would less impressive. So we gave you a less impressive version, so no one is impressed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Anywho, I'l agree the Egis leave a lot to be desired, but I suspect this has to do with lore. Summoning an exact lookalike of a Primal kind of rubs in the face of killing Primals. That being said, they could aim to do something with them. Hell, like Summoners use the wind-ups to glam over Egis. Those are adorable, xD
    Egi's as a lore point pretty much blew the door open for whatever SE could choose to do with them, unfortunately that choice was to have them set on auto the majority of the time.
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