Just to add I've never had major issues with my DF groups... Not once (other than some peoples attitude). The vast majority of players accept advice when given constructively and I'm sure there are exceptions but it is not the rule. The issue with the community is people exactly like the people complaining in this thread. Instead of them adjusting their attitues and learning a little patcience and understanding they expect things to be fixed for them. It's sheer laziness and unwillingness to work with others, which ironically is exaclty like those "percieved" people they are moaning about.... I say "percieved" because I doubt they take any steps to advise people who are underperforming and instead just write them off as someone unwilling to learn without so much as a word.