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    Grant_Wilshire's Avatar
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    Forever Haunted
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 33
    I am a low level player that is sitting around level 30. I have no previous MMO experience and I have struggled to understand at times what is expected of my roles (DPS, TANK - so far).
    The game is such an easy single player experience then you are awkwardly thrust into scenarios with other people without truly knowing what you should be doing. I will say that Hall of Novice helped bridge the gap a little, but I learned so much more finally joining duties and watching people and having them share advice in real time scenarios.

    I think the biggest disservice in the game is that you can breeze along and not need to even talk to any other person for days if not months (if you are a father, husband, bread earner like myself who can't play all day) and then you are put in to a party and it changes the whole dynamics. Yet when you get put in a party you are playing with grumpy people who have cleared that scenario 100 times already and expect me to follow suit.

    I wish the game had a way of ramping up cooperative play immediately. The idea that we are dependant on each other to survive in Eorzea instead of becoming a burden to each other because it cramps are solo play styles.

    To answer the op - yes, there should be someway to train people their roles and it should be more community based and beneficial to each other as we learn and make strides as a family. It is hard to do this when you don't really need another living soul for your first 40-50 levels.
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    Mithrahn's Avatar
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    L'yuuyami Oschon
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant_Wilshire View Post
    I am a low level player that is sitting around level 30. I have no previous MMO experience and I have struggled to understand at times what is expected of my roles (DPS, TANK - so far).
    The game is such an easy single player experience then you are awkwardly thrust into scenarios with other people without truly knowing what you should be doing. I will say that Hall of Novice helped bridge the gap a little, but I learned so much more finally joining duties and watching people and having them share advice in real time scenarios.

    I think the biggest disservice in the game is that you can breeze along and not need to even talk to any other person for days if not months (if you are a father, husband, bread earner like myself who can't play all day) and then you are put in to a party and it changes the whole dynamics. Yet when you get put in a party you are playing with grumpy people who have cleared that scenario 100 times already and expect me to follow suit.

    I wish the game had a way of ramping up cooperative play immediately. The idea that we are dependant on each other to survive in Eorzea instead of becoming a burden to each other because it cramps are solo play styles.

    To answer the op - yes, there should be someway to train people their roles and it should be more community based and beneficial to each other as we learn and make strides as a family. It is hard to do this when you don't really need another living soul for your first 40-50 levels.
    Hear hear, give us back early days of FFXI (as in 11) where it's almost impossible to solo level past level 12 unless you were an insanely rich red mage or were a beastmaster. /notsarcasm /partiallyjoke /partiallyserious
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    Sandpark's Avatar
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    Kronus Magnus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 70
    @Grant_Wilshire
    Join a helpful/friendly company, ask questions on novice network, do guildhest, and google your job rotations. Sorry it has been hard, you will grow.
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    Grant_Wilshire's Avatar
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    Forever Haunted
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 33
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    @Grant_Wilshire
    Join a helpful/friendly company, ask questions on novice network, do guildhest, and google your job rotations. Sorry it has been hard, you will grow.
    Thanks. I'm not upset by it and I have definitely done some if not all of the things you suggested. I was just sharing that the game feels very single player which shocked me because I always assumed a MMO would need more cooperative play.
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant_Wilshire View Post
    Thanks. I'm not upset by it and I have definitely done some if not all of the things you suggested. I was just sharing that the game feels very single player which shocked me because I always assumed a MMO would need more cooperative play.
    That is due to the nature of the open world. Most difficult group content is locked in instances and open world mobs tend to be very weak so as not to discourage or impede players doing quest and traveling.

    Just continue doing the stuff you been doing then. I guess you never played Square's older mmo FFXI in the pre level 75 years. You would probably get what you are wishing in terms of group interaction. With a cross server duty finder here no one has to be nice but some are. That is the price you pay for convenience. I knew some casuals who played XI who took a year to get max level playing 2-3 hours a day, very group oriented.
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    Last edited by Sandpark; 08-11-2016 at 04:51 PM.

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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant_Wilshire View Post
    To answer the op - yes, there should be someway to train people their roles and it should be more community based and beneficial to each other as we learn and make strides as a family. It is hard to do this when you don't really need another living soul for your first 40-50 levels.
    Even at 60, you don't need anyone.
    I mean this game is almost Single Player tier because
    it just allows you to throw yourself into the fray with randoms about a good...90~95% of the game.
    The other percentage is locked behind PF/Static I guess but then it'll open for everyone the next patch.
    Edit: Game is also tailored to those who do not have much time on your hand.
    At the end of the day, it's a MMO and you're not really 'soloing' so do expect jerks in the DF.
    And even finally being around people are running in silence. I personally don't mind it
    because I don't have that much time on my hand but I can see how people feel like it's kinda 'dead'.
    You're better off with NPC's who talk more randomly lol!

    With that said, people should really try and amp up and talk to others in FC's or join a social LS to not make the game so quiet I guess.
    I found it hard some times because I'm assuming people also think there's no real point when everything is handed to you.
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 08-11-2016 at 02:58 PM.

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    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant_Wilshire View Post
    wish the game had a way of ramping up cooperative play immediately. The idea that we are dependant on each other to survive in Eorzea instead of becoming a burden to each other because it cramps are solo play styles.
    I suggest jumping into Palace of the Dead at level 16. You will get to see and use all your skills on the class (Job too if unlocked), which helps to learn the class. Also you get to see the playstyles etc of other players. The last boss @50 also gives you a crash course in avoiding AOE's it has a few mechanics but is slow enough that you can learn to avoid and dodge.
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