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    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    I think its really funny, just how much the playerbase is worried about their "limited resources". I don't think that the amount of resources they have should be a limitation on what ideas we give or what ideas should be implemented if they are fun.
    I think it's less "worrying" about the resources and more being able to look at something and see that it's probably a non-starter.

    As soon as you start significantly limiting the target audience for potential content, you've already moved drastically outside the realm of content that's ever likely to get implemented in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    That's like being a kid and not asking your parents for stuff for Christmas because you think they don't have enough money.
    It's more like a kid realizing that there's no point asking for a new car for Christmas when their parents are already struggling to put a meal on the table every day.
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    Was with you until:

    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    That's like being a kid and not asking your parents for stuff for Christmas because you think they don't have enough money.
    As someone who came from a dirt poor background I was very conscious of asking my parents for something they could afford (if asking at all) & not ever showing disappointment if I didn't receive it. I mostly got things I asked for, even if in a 'bargain' format, bless their hearts. I can't imagine what kind of vile creature would deliberately put their parents in the position of feeling like failures because they couldn't give their child what they asked for.
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    Its getting off topic, lmao. I meant wouldn't It make your parents feel more like crap if you said you can't afford to get me presents so don't worry about it. And I said "you think", not "you know"

    It's not our job to worry about what resources they have, they aren't "struggling to put food on the table".


    Saying an idea that isn't reasonable because of resources is kinda silly.
    What data do we have on their current resources?
    We should feel free to put out our ideas, and hope for the best.

    I already stated in the OP that I doubt it would get implemented, but it would be fun if it did.
    gotta be an optimist sometimes in life. I understand being realistic is great for real life, but this is a game.

    So As I said, It would be great to have limited time raid events maybe once or twice a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    It's not our job to worry about what resources they have, they aren't "struggling to put food on the table".
    But they clearly are.

    How many times per day is it brought up that there are only two or three fights per six months that fall in the range between "can be easily cleared in DF while watch Netflix" and "requires 10+ minutes of eight people making minimal or no mistakes"?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    Saying an idea that isn't reasonable because of resources is kinda silly.
    What data do we have on their current resources?
    We know, because they've straight up told us, that they don't have enough resources to produce a third raid difficulty that falls between Normal and Savage.

    If they don't have sufficient resources to re-tune an existing raid, for which all the art assets, mechanics, etc. are all in place, presumably they wouldn't have sufficient resources to create entirely new encounters. Even if they did manage to find more resources, why would they want to limit the availability of those encounters, given that there's already a shortage of relevant-difficulty raiding content for a significant portion of the player base?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    We should feel free to put out our ideas, and hope for the best.
    Sure, but you'll probably find people more interesting in engaging in discussion about an idea if you put forth one that's actually plausible.
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    Last edited by Ibi; 08-11-2016 at 08:46 AM.

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    I get completely what you're saying, to be honest (putting the off topic stuff to the side) but all we're doing is giving you the answer now that they will give later.

    I agree that resources shouldn't be a concern for us players. Heck, they shouldn't be a concern for SE if the game is doing as well as claimed, the money should be there for whatever they need. Unfortunately, we have to face the fact that they, unlike most companies I know, only ever work to resources & seem to be unwilling to expand capacity or capabilities at this stage.
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    you win Ibi I give up. Good Luck have fun.
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