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  1. #21
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HakaseNyan View Post

    I really enjoy this job, but the cards feel like a gimmick instead of a focus. Touching a card every 30s and maybe not even buffing anyone for an entire minute+ is a real drag.
    Hell, half the time I am trying to run around playing WHM Jr. than trying to play Yugioh with my AST.
    Just feels like it should a been a pure support job but it just fell back to glorified WHM with card tricks.
    They just can't really do hybrids well without gamebreaking OP and preferring X to Y class.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    This is mostly because AST has two sects: Nocturnal and Diurnal.
    If you get two ASTs in the group there is no reason for both to be Diurnal or both Nocturnal. They should always be opposite sects (one Noct and one Diur) to work together with highest efficiency since Noct and Diur stuff does stack with each other.
    Yeah too bad Noct stance is utter dookie. It's been over a year and they still dunno what to do with Noct stance.
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  2. #22
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    The card system needs reworking. This random ability mechanic should be completely removed.
    It really doesn't.

    Out of all the problems AST has, the cards are actually the one thing that they got right. Don't call for fixes where they aren't needed, please.
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  3. #23
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Yeah too bad Noct stance is utter dookie. It's been over a year and they still dunno what to do with Noct stance.
    Just let us switch on the fly it's not exactly game breaking but hey ho that's another topic.
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  4. #24
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    This is mostly because AST has two sects: Nocturnal and Diurnal.

    If you get two ASTs in the group there is no reason for both to be Diurnal or both Nocturnal. They should always be opposite sects (one Noct and one Diur) to work together with highest efficiency since Noct and Diur stuff does stack with each other.

    When you get two WHMs in the group they have no stances to change to so to penalize them just because they happen to DF and get two wouldn't be a good thing to do.
    Why not? Two SCHs already get penalized with non-stacking barriers.

    I really enjoy this job, but the cards feel like a gimmick instead of a focus.
    That's exactly what was intended. The job is still a healer, first and foremost.

    It's the exact same deal with BRD and its songs. It is nowhere near the support level it was in a game like FFXI because here it is still a DPS, first and foremost.
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  5. #25
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Just let us switch on the fly it's not exactly game breaking but hey ho that's another topic.
    What would switching on the fly accomplish?

    Absolutely nothing, because the instant you're in a group with a scholar Noct sect is made useless.
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  6. #26
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    What would switching on the fly accomplish?

    Absolutely nothing, because the instant you're in a group with a scholar Noct sect is made useless.
    Exactly so whats the point not being able to switch whenever. Wouldn't hurt to be able to throw out a higher potency heal now and again.
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  7. #27
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Exactly so whats the point not being able to switch whenever. Wouldn't hurt to be able to throw out a higher potency heal now and again.
    There's just no reason for it. I guess it would be a buff to dungeon runs where you're the only healer? But I'd rather them focus on 8 man content. And make Noct sect better so you won't even consider using Diurnal when you're with a white mage.
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  8. #28
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I don't fully grasp the hatred for Noct stance. Or, at least, I don't see why Diurnal is so vastly superior. The only explanation I've seen delves into the need for DPS or Regen having a higher potency after all the ticks are added.

    But that takes TIME, something you don't always have! I'd rather be a SCH-lite with muh cards and prevent damage in the first place, and Noct boosts your heals just by being in the sect, giving you a better stand AS healer. Stronger heals=more chances to DPS and use cards.

    Nocturnal isn't garbage by any means. You still have that same synergy with a WHM if you utelize the sheilds correctly.


    Really, the only reason I diurnal is if I'm paired with a Scholar. Otherwise, we nerf each other, and it's not worth it!
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  9. #29
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    Nico Nico
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    ...all the time I read every AST said they are the best healer class and eventually some AST found a new worse healer class,

    which is the other AST in their party! ^^;
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  10. #30
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I don't fully grasp the hatred for Noct stance. Or, at least, I don't see why Diurnal is so vastly superior. The only explanation I've seen delves into the need for DPS or Regen having a higher potency after all the ticks are added.

    But that takes TIME, something you don't always have! I'd rather be a SCH-lite with muh cards and prevent damage in the first place, and Noct boosts your heals just by being in the sect, giving you a better stand AS healer. Stronger heals=more chances to DPS and use cards.

    Nocturnal isn't garbage by any means. You still have that same synergy with a WHM if you utelize the sheilds correctly.


    Really, the only reason I diurnal is if I'm paired with a Scholar. Otherwise, we nerf each other, and it's not worth it!
    The problem lies more that AST is a suitable white mage replacement, but nothing can replace a scholar because scholar is overpowered.

    Noct would be fine if Scholar didn't exist, but since it does, it needs help to catch up.
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