Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW!

[Sandpark]

I want to know. You seem to have the solution to all our problems. Don't want to answer my hypothetical question I asked?

• Make 4 man content, public dungeons, solo content for casual with light to moderate difficulty.
• Make 4-8 man content, public dungeons,solo/group content for midcore with moderate difficulty, lenient mechanics/group number composition. Not reffering to roles but numbers.
• Make 4-24 man content, solo content for hardcore with high difficulty, strict mechanics.

Make instanced/open world content for all groups, strive for accessibility and clear instructions and remember the different groups. Maintain the instanced contents ilvl for casuals. Create open world systems with long term progressive systems similar to Sky or Sea but not as long lasting for midcore and hardcore. Retain tight knit instances for midcore with group number and mechanic leniency, and keep pumping out the savage version for hardcore.

Here is a look at a type of different content.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3809761

[Velhart]

• Make 4 man content, public dungeons, solo content for casual with light to moderate difficulty.
• Make 4-8 man content, public dungeons,solo/group content for midcore with moderate difficulty, lenient mechanics/group number composition. Not reffering to roles but numbers.
• Make 4-24 man content, solo content for hardcore with high difficulty, strict mechanics.

Make instanced/open world content for all groups, strive for accessibility and clear instructions and remember the different groups. Maintain the instanced contents ilvl for casuals. Create open world systems with long term progressive systems similar to Sky or Sea but not as long lasting for midcore and hardcore. Retain tight knit instances for midcore with group number and mechanic leniency, and keep pumping out the savage version for hardcore.

Here is a look at a type of different content.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3809761

How do you plan to accommodate the mass amount of people the open world portions? How will you maintain the toxicity of clashing with other groups and the server stress of so many in a area?

[Sandpark]

How do you plan to accommodate the mass amount of people the open world portions? How will you maintain the toxicity of clashing with other groups and the server stress of so many in a area?

I imagine with Phasing. SE already does some of this and most modern mmos go heavy with the phasing. Since all content wouldn't be vortexed into the same area, wider player populace around Eorzea, and numerous servers. And since this game uses a GCD which I don't like normally, it adds to server stability since no one can zing off 1000 AoES one after the other.

[Velhart]

I imagine with Phasing. SE already does some of this and most modern mmos go heavy with the phasing. Since all content wouldn't be vortexed into the same area, wider player populace around Eorzea, and numerous servers. And since this game uses a GCD which I don't like normally, it adds to server stability since no one can zing off 1000 AoES one after the other.

But you still clash with others who can easily ruin your night. Why would you pick that over instanced which the only people who can ruin your night is the ones you took with you? I recall entire nights ruined because too many LS's were in Sky, Sea, or take a spot in Dynamis.

[Istaru]

But you still clash with others who can easily ruin your night. Why would you pick that over instanced which the only people who can ruin your night is the ones you took with you? I recall entire nights ruined because too many LS's were in Sky, Sea, or take a spot in Dynamis.

I have to agree with you, there was a significant level of endgame interpersonal conflict that I don't care to see again.

[Sandpark]

But you still clash with others who can easily ruin your night. Why would you pick that over instanced which the only people who can ruin your night is the ones you took with you? I recall entire nights ruined because too many LS's were in Sky, Sea, or take a spot in Dynamis.

If I play with fear that is not playing. There are a thousand reasons that could ruin a night and they don't even have to be in game. Phasing would fix competitive PvE for the most part. Even now nights get ruined sometimes as you state.

[Velhart]

If I play with fear that is not playing. There are a thousand reasons that could ruin a night and they don't even have to be in game. Phasing would fix competitive PvE for the most part. Even now nights get ruined sometimes as you state.

You are not answering my question. Why would I pick this type of game play that clashes with other people when I can have an instance of the game thing and not conflict with others? Why would I pick a feature that can ruin my night because of other people instead of a instanced group where that is not an issue? I have a feeling you can't give me a very good answer.

I guarantee you if Sky, Sea, or Dynamis had a choice to be instanced, people would most definitely of taken it. Too many nights our LS's plans were cancelled because of frustration of dealing with other people. Doing things like Einherjar or BCNM/KSNM were ever rarely the case because there was no real clash. Even SE agreed to an extent and made HNM Kings have force pops.

[Skivvy]

You are not answering my question. Why would I pick this type of game play that clashes with other people when I can have an instance of the game thing and not conflict with others? Why would I pick a feature that can ruin my night because of other people instead of a instanced group where that is not an issue? I have a feeling you can't give me a very good answer.

I guarantee you if Sky, Sea, or Dynamis had a choice to be instanced, people would most definitely of taken it. Too many nights our LS's plans were cancelled because of frustration of dealing with other people. Doing things like Einherjar or BCNM/KSNM were ever rarely the case because there was no real clash. Even SE agreed to an extent and made HNM Kings have force pops.

So what I'm taking from this is that games can change to keep up with the needs/desires of their player base. Perhaps one day XIV will add some spice to the world that is Eorzea. :P

[Shurrikhan]

You are not answering my question. Why would I pick this type of game play that clashes with other people when I can have an instance of the game thing and not conflict with others? Why would I pick a feature that can ruin my night because of other people instead of a instanced group where that is not an issue? I have a feeling you can't give me a very good answer.

I guarantee you if Sky, Sea, or Dynamis had a choice to be instanced, people would most definitely of taken it. Too many nights our LS's plans were cancelled because of frustration of dealing with other people. Doing things like Einherjar or BCNM/KSNM were ever rarely the case because there was no real clash. Even SE agreed to an extent and made HNM Kings have force pops.

For starters, shouldn't your comparisons be to the systems already in XIV where this can be a problem (Hunts, FATEs, and Diadem), or where that problem is (albeit awkwardly) avoided, such as in leves?

Sorry to answer a question with a question, but are these open world interactions condemned to be ever disappointing just because someone else can have an affect on the resources or tasks available to you? The same concepts are largely lauded in other MMOs, wherein the players must make an effort together in order to keep a given zone functioning, or where world PvP can push opportunities for players in their respective factions for better or worse. Are those people just all crazy for enjoying that element of risk and/or (forced) community?

[Sandpark]

You are not answering my question. Why would I pick this type of game play that clashes with other people when I can have an instance of the game thing and not conflict with others? Why would I pick a feature that can ruin my night because of other people instead of a instanced group where that is not an issue? I have a feeling you can't give me a very good answer.

I guarantee you if Sky, Sea, or Dynamis had a choice to be instanced, people would most definitely of taken it. Too many nights our LS's plans were cancelled because of frustration of dealing with other people. Doing things like Einherjar or BCNM/KSNM were ever rarely the case because there was no real clash. Even SE agreed to an extent and made HNM Kings have force pops.

Phasing. You don't have to compete against hundreds of others and people can still get their open world fix.
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There were times I would go up into Sky alone and solo stuff I wasn't supposed to. But I couldn't solo everything. It was amazing for the option to run into people and have an experience of community, not an event of community. An example of event type is everyone going to a huge peace/love festival like The Burning Man, and even though there are thousands of people, you are really only interacting with who you came with if you are staring at your phone and the people two feet in front of you the whole time.

Having a zone with interconnecting areas and the ability to get lost, gives you the Christopher Columbus feeling you can't get with bread crumb trails and lobbies. Not saying I don't enjoy my share of instances. But when a game puts all it's eggs in one basket and shuns another, that is a limit on what someone might consider fun.