FFXIV 2nd expansion: Viera-like race still a possibility?

[Kurogaea]

Exactly. Also, people who anger the forest (or Elementals. Either or) will be afflicted with the Greenwrath/Woodsin, something which has been heavily downplayed so far.
Found the cutscene: https://youtu.be/kN4rv0hk400?t=32m10s

Its a shame because that no longer happens. You know how many criminals roam the forest now but none has been inflicted with greenwrath or woodsin? Not to mention Viera's love the forests and they can be introduced into the new areas as settlers, much like coerthas and the Au Ra. Not gonna talk too much on lore as everyone knows how easily mend-able it is. Though I will say that just because Duskwight's and Moon Keepers may be in the Western Shrouds doesn't mean another race may have lived there. After all, they are the outcasts of their race. :/

[dinnertime]

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I think you don't see the Black Shroud as dangerous as it was before because the Calamity really took a toll on the forest and the elementals, so they're really weak. Poachers took advantage of it I guess.

Anyway if they're going to introduce a new race such as Viera, they should make them unplayable first and give them some story to give a reason/explain why there's a growing population of them in Eorzea. Au Ra wasn't explained very well but their reason was because their homeland of Othard was conquered by the Garlean Empire, so a lot of them might be refugees. Xaela however are nomads so travelling is a natural thing to them. I think if they shown more story about Au Ra instead of only showing Yugiri and then releasing them so quickly then people would understand why they're there.

[Talamarie]

I do think that Viera can still and will be integrated into the game if not for 4.0 maybe for 5.0.
Vieras are a seclutive race living in secrecy so meeting them would be really hard.

I do hope that SE will remember what they did by introducing the Au Ra in the game.
Something mi-human mi-animal ? = Miqo'te (Cats)
Something mi-human mi-animal ? = Au Ra (Lizards)

Saying that Au Ra is different because reptilian and not animal is bullshit.
Reptilian or Feline is a precision on the family tree of the race but the main source is still : animal.
So if 2 animals races has been integrated in the game why not more ? Besides the concept of Vieras is already done, plus there is a MALE version, something that others FF never had.

[Samcaesar]

So if 2 animals races has been integrated in the game why not more ?

That's the issue, you already have two races to bounce through if you want "Sexy anime girlfriend with animal bits" material. I bet dollars to donuts if the Viera were added they'd be toned down just like the Au Ra concept art was during it's development cycle. Why can't us folks who don't want something so saccharinely cutesy get something? Especially if it had an animal influence or filled that stout and squat niche like dwarves tend to do. (And no, the which range from looking like "I'm so elegant and pretty" to "generic anime girl with bunny ears" do not count.)

[Nestama]

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I think they are afflicted with the Greenwrath/Woodsin, but since the Elementals are still weak due to the Calamity, nothing has happened to them (yet. Either they'll get purged or the Elementals will do something once they're strong enough). As for the rabbit people, IF they were introduced to FFXIV, I really doubt they'd be forest people (it'd be silly to have a Padjal say "they've 'secretly' been here the entire time!" followed by "and now hundreds of them want to explore the world because why not?"). The less they have to do with Ivalice, the better.

The more I think on it, the less likely I think a new race will happen (unless they're another Au Ra situation and came from a different continent). Any race that lives in secrecy within Eorzea and then suddenly becoming playable just... it doesn't make sense to me :/

[Kurogaea]

That's the issue, you already have two races to bounce through if you want "Sexy anime girlfriend with animal bits" material. I bet dollars to donuts if the Viera were added they'd be toned down just like the Au Ra concept art was during it's development cycle. Why can't us folks who don't want something so saccharinely cutesy get something? Especially if it had an animal influence or filled that stout and squat niche like dwarves tend to do. (And no, the which range from looking like "I'm so elegant and pretty" to "generic anime girl with bunny ears" do not count.)

The question you seem to be neglecting is "why not?" We don't need a Triad gameplay system with roles but we have it. We have Lord of Vermillion, but we have it. We now have Palace of the Dead because "why not". If you don't like change you wouldn't be the first but this is getting ridiculous. If the Viera or any unique race were to be added, where is there a reason it should not/never happen? Because it would look different? Don't see people stop being Au Ra's because SE decided to make everything innovative look "traditionally" pretty and faultless (except for the male Au Ra's crap dancing). Makes me wonder what these forums are for anyway. If your just going to say the devs won't change because they're like that, then whats the point of having a chat system meant for feedback from actual players?

[Ghastly]

I'm not going to bother with the naysayers, they have no room in this discussion. As I said in my previous comment, the decision was made already so people who don't want viera to be added have no real influence here.

Those that actually played FFXII know that no one (except 5 or 6 people have ever seen where the viera originated from). Same thing will be true here, the elementals hid them. But that's if our guess that they're in the shroud is true and I think/predict it is. In my opinion that arrow they added to the Gridania map that pointed to West shroud is a hint that they're planning to reveal the West shroud soon.

Don't worry kurogaea, next month (or october) viera fans will be here and those who used lore not to add them will have to accept the lore they love so much. Lore is created so that new things are added to it. Lore is not a tool to prevent new things we don't like to not be added.

[Starkbeaumont]

i'd rather have races that take traits from underwater creatures or plants than bunny people...

[Nestama]

I'm not going to bother with the naysayers, they have no room in this discussion.

That just means you're not allowed to complain when the rabbit humans turn out to look nothing like the Viera you want or the concept art that was shown for them. Also what decision are you talking about? Just because concept art was drawn for them, doesn't mean they're guaranteed (it's like saying since the wolfman concept art was drawn, they're definitely going to be the next playable race) and if you're talking about the poll back in 2012, that's pretty much a minority vote at this point :/

Anyway, think about it. The Elementals are too weak to even flitter about the Shroud like they used to in 1.0, why would they waste their energy 'continuing' to hide the Viera (for thousands of years? including the 1.0 days when you could venture into the Western parts of the Shroud. Heck, it makes even less sense when you throw in the Flood the Elementals caused during the War of Magi. In the cutscene I posted earlier, the Elementals do not distinguish right from wrong. If you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, you're getting purged regardless of whether you're a protector of the forest or not). It makes no sense to make something that has been "hidden" to suddenly be playable. Moogles currently have a higher chance at being considered playable.

[Samcaesar]

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Because the role of "Lanky elegant forest people" or "Animal forest people" or heck even "People who protect the forest" already have roles in the game and it's show a complete lack or care for anything except dumb pandering if suddenly the mystical and perfect Viera were added. At the point we're were at, adding Viera already either tows the line of either being just another boring pretty girl with animal traits race or some bizarre retcon of the elements special race. If they suddenly decided Viera existed out of player demand (Especially in the way they exist in 12) it'd show an utter lack of care towards the lore of Gridania, the Padjals, Moon Keeper Miqo'te, and Duskwight Elezen. There are also plenty of folks who looked at the old Au Ra concept art and are frustrated that we got such a milquetoast, trite version of a race, myself included. Stuff like Triple Triad or Lords of Vermillion get a pass particularly because the Gold Saucer is suppose to be this silly and bizarre fun place

To the question of dev feedback, you're looking into game design. Devs following the players demands to a T leads to a messy boring game that's just pure otaku fap-bait (See most free to play MMOs like from Korea and all). On the other hand, Devs ignoring the playerbase leads to a game that never receives feedback and thus dies out. It's a proper balance, and imho, because of those reasons I listed above adding Viera would show their willingness to toss already established lore aside for pandering to the same group that got pandered before with the in game version of the Au Ra.

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Please stop trying to make Eorzea into Ivalice. There are races already in game that fit the niche that the Viera do. You're making some incredibly bold assumptions based off of some concept art and fanning over the Viera from 12. Let me ask you this, if the devs didn't add Viera the first time around, what makes now different? The idea was obviously in their minds, they drew concept art, but in the end it was rejected for a different design that slowly went through an evolution into (imho) a much boring race idea than what it was in earlier stages.

Have you thought about asking the Live Letter panel about your point on neglected clans? It would be a good question. Well actually, nevermind they seem to take more Balmung related questions.

God I wish we could get some info about the Moon Keepers and Duskwight. The stuff we have in game is so weird and kinda odd it just makes me wish we'd get more info on them. Between the Palace of the Dead taking place in Gelmorra and the lack of anything Duskwight in it and the only "group" of Moon Keepers in the game being just some gross douche in the forest who's jealous of how Sun Seekers have things set up, I'd kill for some actual Duskwight and Moon Keeper settlements or something.