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  1. #1
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    Post 1.19 What have we gained where can we improve

    So the patch is here, and well I'm only 42, but things seem to have just gotten tough. I was doing imperial devices with a couple friends last night. They were 50 con and thm, both walk in and cast do over 500 dmg aoe per mob, which I was commonly hitting before the patch. Now its taking me several shots to kill the mobs dead, and I'm killing 1 to there 5.

    So if gear is supposed to have more effect what can we do to make our damage better.

    Seems like we lost a good bit did we gain anything I'm missing?

    Really looking for constructive help to make Arc better because I was enjoying it.
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    Medura's Avatar
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    Medura Bloodspiller
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    Moogle
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Arc was nerfed, sorry to say, as im using archer myself. Buuut, archer was very op before patch, so i saw it coming.

    Best you can do is get gear below or same level and add materia to it.

    Also, colored gear got bonus stats, just sayin
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    Yeah currently I don't think we've gained anything at all.. Just got nerfed down alot harder than the patch notes would lead you to believe. As it stands now, if ARC was ur only job, TIME TO START LEVELING SOMETHING ELSE.
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    Betelgeuzah's Avatar
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    Captain Lalafist
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 82
    As it stands now, if ARC was ur only job, TIME TO START LEVELING SOMETHING ELSE.
    For something so obviously temporary? Well, if you really give a damn about the few month wait in-between I guess..
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    Chief Currahee
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Buy level appropriate arrows.
    In 1.18 you could get away with using lv 1 through your whole career.

    Just an example:
    In 1.19
    @lv 47 with lv 1 arrows I hit equal level mobs for ~80-100 damage.
    @lv 47 with lv 47 arrow I hit equal level mobs for 150-160 damage.
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    Doctor Jekyll
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 50
    My Alpha Strike (Trifurcate with all the buffs) Used to hit 5 Star Leve Mobs for 500-600 per arrow, now they do 150-200. Weapon Skills seem to be affected less, they are doing less damage in some cases (Bloodletter) and more in others (Foeseeker, Barrage-With a new animation btw).

    I personally thought it was a bit broken before, I could very easily solo 5 Star Leves at Rank 45.
    Still soloing 5 Stars at 49, just takes a little longer without that big chunk of HP taken off at the start.

    I'm fine with being still the best Non-Mage DD.

    They've made the game more challenging, this is probably a good thing. They are balancing the game as well, also a good thing.

    Not having any need or desire to group in an MMO since launch was a bigger problem, and I've played with others more since the 1.19 update than I have since launch day.

    I'll take a little damage off my ARC if we can add in some actual fun.
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    "Never-EVER underestimate a good kick to the groin." -Bas Rutten

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    Fufanu Nakamoto
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    Marauder Lv 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Exni View Post
    Yeah currently I don't think we've gained anything at all.. Just got nerfed down alot harder than the patch notes would lead you to believe. As it stands now, if ARC was ur only job, TIME TO START LEVELING SOMETHING ELSE.
    Ignore this guy.. FOTM player right here!

    Archer is great still.. its more in line with the support class they intend for it to be when BRD comes along.. I expect some enfeebling type shots to come about kinda like a corsair, but Barcher!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbin View Post
    Ignore this guy.. FOTM player right here!

    Archer is great still.. its more in line with the support class they intend for it to be when BRD comes along.. I expect some enfeebling type shots to come about kinda like a corsair, but Barcher!
    Yeah.. OK.. How bout we ignore the arc who hasn't finished leveling.. NOOB player right there! (See, I can make assumptions too!)

    FYI.. Archer is far from "great" as it has fallen to the lowest DD currently. Players who originally leveled ARC from launch (fotm lol... just because your new, doesn't mean we all are) may have thought they were going something similar to the DD capacity that RNG brought to XI. I personally had hoped ARC would not take such a strong nerf so that it could remain competitive as a DD against the 'jobs' that the other DD classes will get. As we are becoming BRD and therefore moreso support in our 'job', our best bet for maintaining competitive dps would have likely been from remaining in ARC.

    The recommendation to start leveling something else is not only valid, but an obvious inevitability. Since ARC currently is doing the lowest dps, it would make sense to level a more viable DD. Soon ARC will become really useful either as a DD or later in support as BRD, but right now, you'd be better off bringing something else to the party, especially if there's already one ARC there. Aside from that, if you only had one class.. it was time to start leveling something else anyway..
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    Last edited by Exni; 10-10-2011 at 02:13 AM.

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    Doctor Jekyll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exni View Post
    Yeah.. OK.. How bout we ignore the arc who hasn't finished leveling.. NOOB player right there! (See, I can make assumptions too!)

    FYI.. Archer is far from "great" as it has fallen to the lowest DD currently. Players who originally leveled ARC from launch (fotm lol... just because your new, doesn't mean we all are) may have thought they were going something similar to the DD capacity that RNG brought to XI. I personally had hoped ARC would not take such a strong nerf so that it could remain competitive as a DD against the 'jobs' that the other DD classes will get. As we are becoming BRD and therefore moreso support in our 'job', our best bet for maintaining competitive dps would have likely been from remaining in ARC.

    The recommendation to start leveling something else is not only valid, but an obvious inevitability. Since ARC currently is doing the lowest dps, it would make sense to level a more viable DD. Soon ARC will become really useful either as a DD or later in support as BRD, but right now, you'd be better off bringing something else to the party, especially if there's already one ARC there. Aside from that, if you only had one class.. it was time to start leveling something else anyway..
    I still seem to be out damaging most other jobs except for mages, and pulling hate whenever I want.

    If you are good you will still be at the top. Now you can't be lazy and the top DD, us ARC's will have to pick one.

    Even if I can't be the top DD, I still love the play style of ARC.

    And enough of all this doom and gloom about us becoming Bards.

    You're all acting like there isn't a bunch of Characters running around with GUNS.

    You would really rather pursue the support role over blowing holes in things faces with bullets?

    I think ARC will be the perfect pre-rec for the inevitable Muskateer.
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    "Never-EVER underestimate a good kick to the groin." -Bas Rutten

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    Are we able to sign a petition that they completely ruined my favorite class in the game? I feel like they nered archer so bad because others were complaining "Oh Archer is so OP...It's not fair...everyones just gonna be an archer" Well now I've had over 5 level 50 Archer friends that refuse to bring out their Archer at all now.

    Everyone can argue that because of the stats disappearing everyone got nerfed, but Archer seems more so than any other. I'm already upset that the class I'll be advancing to is Bard....not Beastmaster or anything, but now you make my favorite class worthless? Thanks Squeenix
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