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[Hyrist]

I really feel that if anything your the one being a bit hyperbolic looking at the front page out of what like 30 possible threads on the front page I see like...5? that I could point out as having blatantly negative clickbaity titles.

The rest of them are fairly positive discussion about showing off your characters or feedback that isn't toxic about game systems. I personally feel there are a very vocal few who get a bit too tightly wound when people come off as negative about the game. I get it they are invested but if they want to take part in proper discussion they need to be as level headed as they expect the opposition to be. I find both sides to (Like everything) have people who are a bit too extreme on each end of the spectrum but that's just human nature and complaining about it is pointless.

... I think you don't understand that idea of Hyperbole.

"Far too often" is a factor indicating opinion, not listing as a fact, not engaging in hyperbole.(By contrast, an example of Hyperbole would be: "Every thread on these boards is hyperbolic!") Even five out of thirty is a fairly high percentage of hyperbole. That's two short of a flat 20%. (It's %16.6r). And while, yes, while both sides are vulnerable, I would wager that if you were to compare the two, you know which would be more guilty of such a thing. In my experience such 'positive' hyperbolic threads tend to be reactionary to to the negative ones.

Now, keep in context, not long ago I expressed my woes about the state of video game forums in general, in particularly these 'official' forums which seem to hold the highest vitriol, often under the guise of 'feedback'. By my experience I've found that more heavily moderated forums are far more effective in both terms of feedback and terms of an overall positive environment than light or quiet moderation. (However, I'm not sitting on the metric numbers.)

But no, a statement of opinion isn't hyperbole, it can CONTAIN hyperbole - but the listed accusation of such falls short of the mark. Five out of Thirty meets my opinion of, 'far too much' especially when were're just considering thread titles and not posts within them as well. You're free to disagree, but you're not going to make any headway with me as far as convincing me otherwise. The way the vocal players act upon boards such as these has a direct and profound negative impact on my enjoyment on the game as such I am far more critical of them than those who dismiss such things as noise.

[Jynx]

The way the vocal players act upon boards such as these has a direct and profound negative impact on my enjoyment on the game as such I am far more critical of them than those who dismiss such things as noise.

So asides from your feeling all your doing is stating your feelings.

You acuse people of blowing things out of proportion and do so yourself and then defend yourself for doing it. I guess I am free to disagree with you on that.

I'm not saying I'm for the ultra negative feedback I find it counterproductive to be honest but people are free to express their opinions and as someone who doesn't like such content I don't post in the threads because I would be doing the exact oposite of what I want. The goal is to see these kinds of threads get little feedback due to their lack of any real discussion but they often tend to linger because of people who get riled up at the mere thought of someone posting negative feedback on the game and then perpetuate the very thing they want to get rid of.

I don't think it's our place to play forum police the developers are big boys and can sift through the data as they see fit. They have repeatedly stated that even negative feedback is welcome on the forums as long as people are civil. Both of those points are for them to enforce and not us as posters.

but hey you are free to post as you see fit whether I feel it's counterproductive or not.

[Hyrist]

So asides from your feeling all your doing is stating your feelings.

You acuse people of blowing things out of proportion and do so yourself and then defend yourself for doing it. I guess I am free to disagree with you on that.

I'm not saying I'm for the ultra negative feedback I find it counterproductive to be honest but people are free to express their opinions and as someone who doesn't like such content I don't post in the threads because I would be doing the exact oposite of what I want. The goal is to see these kinds of threads get little feedback due to their lack of any real discussion but they often tend to linger because of people who get riled up at the mere thought of someone posting negative feedback on the game and then perpetuate the very thing they want to get rid of.

I don't think it's our place to play forum police the developers are big boys and can sift through the data as they see fit. They have repeatedly stated that even negative feedback is welcome on the forums as long as people are civil. Both of those points are for them to enforce and not us as posters.

but hey you are free to post as you see fit whether I feel it's counterproductive or not.

I'll leave your opinion of my viewpoints stand rather than make this a contest of who's more valid in their speculation of things. Your perspective differs from mine. That is not a matter of your or I blowing things out of porportion. I've stated my opinion, on the solid metrics you yourself provided. You yourself at this point may be guilty of your own accusations by trying to depict my viewpoint as unnecessarily radical.

While you say the developers are 'big boys' and should be able to sift through the feedback, it is often not the developers that have to deal with the negativity, but the community team and moderators: middle men that, even if you disagree with the game, don't deserve to have to sift through the vitriol to find good feedback. And often it is overwhelming enough that a lot of violations can go overlooked.

To which I pose the question: If a thug robs and assaults a person and nobody calls the cops, is it still a crime?

The answer is, objectively, yes. In fact often it is the law in most areas to report such actions as is your civic duty.

Similarly while we are not 'the forum police', it should be expected of us to discourage vitriol and report that which we feel violates to ToS. We are as much if not more responsible for the tone of this community than the moderators - even if it is my opinion that moderators are not given as much autonomy as they should. They, of course, cannot speak for themselves in most cases, but if you were to have the luxury to talk to them privately you may find out that they would like to be more active in keeping forums clean of the rampant negativity that you and I both object to. (Through different means.) This is speaking from firsthand experience on staff from other MMOs, not of any of SE's employers or affiliates.

To which I reiterate, criticism of Company policy, Game development and policy, and the Game Community itself should all be fair grounds. And commentating on whether or not you feel it's constructive - is arguably less useful than feedback on these three - but, as you say, you are entitled to it.