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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    They could also just call it an alternate time line and done. Isn't that usually how we go about that when we have someone messing with time travel?
    It is a lazy excuse to bring a character back, which in turn can diminish the value of the character.

    Quote Originally Posted by thejthar View Post
    There are rumors that Regula Van Hydurs could be this games Kefka since the Warring Triad side story is nothing but a big reference to the Warring Triad statues and back story of VI. But we shall see.
    The way the story is approached maybe. Since Darnus's campaign was similar to FF7's with Meteor. Regula may temporarily gain the power of the Waring Triad but instead of destroying the world like Kefka, we do stop it from happening.
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    As long as they kept the character true to their nature I doubt fan service would hurt them of any kind. Granted I admit it would certainly be a lame attempt to breathe life back into a game or series but eh.
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    Honestly, I'd rather have them create new characters instead of copying from other FF games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    As long as they kept the character true to their nature I doubt fan service would hurt them of any kind. Granted I admit it would certainly be a lame attempt to breathe life back into a game or series but eh.
    We can criticize some story related decisions FFXIV's lore team has done in the past, but I am pretty sure they try to uphold a standard and not use ill-thought, convenient methods to bring in a certain character.

    My other question assuming we did use time travel. We are using it while Kefka is still doing his thing in FFVI? It is already an inconsistency there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
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    Um...that honestly doesn't explain Cloud or Sephiroth tbh lol. They dont ever really die, just continuously cross into other realms, as has been seen in Kingdom Hearts, forever fighting each other. Or how would you explain them being in KH3? But they're most likely saving something like that for whatever cross promotion for VII next year.
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    Honestly if he arrives and we ask him and his answer is "I broke the fourth wall"


    I'd be happy. Any chance to beat his face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    Or how would you explain them being in KH3?
    That's because Kingdom Hearts doesn't follow the same principle FFXIV does pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    Um...that honestly doesn't explain Cloud or Sephiroth tbh lol. They dont ever really die, just continuously cross into other realms, as has been seen in Kingdom Hearts, forever fighting each other. Or how would you explain them being in KH3? But they're most likely saving something like that for whatever cross promotion for VII next year.
    You know that time travel thing AlphaFox mentioned? Its pretty much like that. The Kingdom Hearts games are in a continuity divorced from post Disney Movies and all FF titles, to the point where the FF characters are only in either newly constructed worlds not based on their games or Olympus Coliseum. Meanwhile in VIII's continuity, Cloud has already vanquished his inner Demons as per Advent Children and the process has Sephiroth die twice.

    The best we coul hope for in this case would be an XV event, maybe another XI event (thought Rapshodies likely put that off limits), Legarti (Nael and Regula) with vague similarity an characters that although named after and having the general appearance of past FF characters, have their role and back-story changed to varying extents (See: Krile)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    Um...that honestly doesn't explain Cloud or Sephiroth tbh lol. They dont ever really die, just continuously cross into other realms, as has been seen in Kingdom Hearts, forever fighting each other. Or how would you explain them being in KH3? But they're most likely saving something like that for whatever cross promotion for VII next year.
    I wouldn't take what is nothing more than a spinoff which completely handwaves the appearance of FF characters in it as canon to the FF series, because it isn't canon at all. It's like saying the Star Wars Christmas Special is canon simply because Boba Fett appeared in it.

    Yoshi made it quite clear why Sephiroth and Cloud will not be appearing - Sephiroth is dead and the whole FFVII Compilation is now complete so that well and truly fits into the definition of what Yoshi mentioned about "whose role ended in their title". Argue and rationalize it all you like, Yoshi stated it pretty conclusively it won't be happening (after all, we got Cloud's Advent Children attire as a Veteran Reward and not through some crossover quest, so yeah, that's pretty much the nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned).
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    You wont take my dreams away! *crawls into a corner*

    On a more serious note, I highly doubt the VII 'issue' is resolved since the title is getting remade next year. Realistically, it would be a loss of too much money just to adhere to "lore," especially since they are continuously making it known that VII will be remade and not just remastered, which is a pretty big difference.
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