Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Ava]

Well, for one, you don't know that it isn't. For two, let's say "method to abuse." Happy now?

Yoshi-P specifically stated it wasn't pre-patch. He was fully aware of powerleveling in 1.19 and supported it 100%. I specifically chose the to word what people are doing now as abuse because it's not a fun method of leveling. It's a thrill that doesn't last. Powerleveling is not fun for the powerleveler, and even less fun for the lowbie sitting there with his/her hands in their pockets leeching exp. People play games for fun and leveling, questing, doing leves, behests, etc is much more fun. I think it's reasonable to expect the abuse to become mitigated greatly after a couple weeks.

There is a similar method in WoW that is even faster. In fact, when completed, you get a free character leveled right off the bat. Granted, it costs a small fee but irregardless, it's not overly abused in the game. In XI you could bring low levels into Abyssea and get level cap in a day and it was greatly abused when Abyssea first hit. I'm not sure how it is now since I don't play anymore, but I would imagine it died down eventually. In fact, in XI pre Abyssea, it was impossible to exp in the low-mid levels without a powerlevel. People absolutely would not join a party without a powerlevel, but most people were fine with that. Is this really that much different from what other games have?

[Denmo]

Yoshi-P specifically stated it wasn't pre-patch. He was fully aware of powerleveling in 1.19 and supported it 100%. I specifically chose the to word what people are doing now as abuse because it's not a fun method of leveling. It's a thrill that doesn't last. Powerleveling is not fun for the powerleveler, and even less fun for the lowbie sitting there with his/her hands in their pockets leeching exp. People play games for fun and leveling, questing, doing leves, behests, etc is much more fun. I think it's reasonable to expect the abuse to become mitigated greatly after a couple weeks.

There is a similar method in WoW that is even faster. In fact, when completed, you get a free character leveled right off the bat. Granted, it costs a small fee but irregardless, it's not overly abused in the game. In XI you could bring low levels into Abyssea and get level cap in a day and it was greatly abused when Abyssea first hit. I'm not sure how it is now since I don't play anymore, but I would imagine it died down eventually. In fact, in XI pre Abyssea, it was impossible to exp in the low-mid levels without a powerlevel. People absolutely would not join a party without a powerlevel, but most people were fine with that. Is this really that much different from what other games have?

This is all well and good if there wasn't any low level content and all the focus was on endgame, which is what FFXI and WoW mostly became.

But XIV is still just starting, and 50 isn't exactly endgame. We have low level content and dungeons that are being rendered pointless and useless by people skipping ahead. Why should the devs support something that enables everyone to skip over half of their game?

When subscriptions hit, you can be damn sure this will be reconsidered.

[Travesty]

Yoshi-P specifically stated it wasn't pre-patch. He was fully aware of powerleveling in 1.19 and supported it 100%.

There is 0 evidence from his comments to make us believe he supports PLing to the extreme that is now possible, and several comments to the contrary, as has been pointed out in this thread multiple times already.

Is this really that much different from what other games have?

Yes.

[Preypacer]

There is a similar method in WoW that is even faster. In fact, when completed, you get a free character leveled right off the bat. Granted, it costs a small fee but irregardless, it's not overly abused in the game. In XI you could bring low levels into Abyssea and get level cap in a day and it was greatly abused when Abyssea first hit. I'm not sure how it is now since I don't play anymore, but I would imagine it died down eventually. In fact, in XI pre Abyssea, it was impossible to exp in the low-mid levels without a powerlevel. People absolutely would not join a party without a powerlevel, but most people were fine with that. Is this really that much different from what other games have?

Just wanted to qualify that statement...

Are you claiming it was impossible to exp in the low-to-mid levels in terms of gameplay? Or, do you mean it was impossible because, as you state later, so many would refuse to join or participate in an xp party without a PL?

If it's the latter, then I agree.. people became *far* too dependent on PL's in that game. Having PL became a crutch to people and I encountered people who literally couldn't function without one. Was sad to see.

If you mean it was literally impossible to xp without a PL in that you *needed* one to level through the low-mid levels... then I'd have to say that's 100% wrong lol. You could level - at any level range - in XI without a PL. Plenty of people did it plenty of times before the whole PL thing caught on 'cause people became too impatient to level alt jobs up without one.

[Zenaku]

Just wanted to qualify that statement...

Are you claiming it was impossible to exp in the low-to-mid levels in terms of gameplay? Or, do you mean it was impossible because, as you state later, so many would refuse to join or participate in an xp party without a PL?

If it's the latter, then I agree.. people became *far* too dependent on PL's in that game. Having PL became a crutch to people and I encountered people who literally couldn't function without one. Was sad to see.

If you mean it was literally impossible to xp without a PL in that you *needed* one to level through the low-mid levels... then I'd have to say that's 100% wrong lol. You could level - at any level range - in XI without a PL. Plenty of people did it plenty of times before the whole PL thing caught on 'cause people became too impatient to level alt jobs up without one.

That the issue i was partying with 8 people from 21-27 and within a hour the 21 got 25. everyone was level every 30min it was crazy with the expchain and this is without powerlevel now if i got 19-29 with a full party within 2hours or less now think of that with a powerlevel? i had to /tell many powerlevel to go somewhere else because we partying here about 100% of them where nice said i'm sorry and left. Even was JP person powerlevel his friend it starting to become a main steam thing and less people going to do party.

They need to fix the exp for partying and take off Powerleveling it's becoming a main steam thing now with PL and don't get me starting with the RMT saw 7 low level powerlevel by 1 50 and all there names where

dfkajad - adlkfj
adlfkj - aldkjf

and so on and even there linkshell was aldkfja

[Charismatic]

At no point in FFXI's life cycle did a PL make great exp 'possible' for a good party. Easier, certainly (as it is the point of powerleveling), but completely unneeded.
RDM+BRD+4xDD could actually work in a lot of level ranges (was more effective, thus more common 70+) and usually you wouldn't have much, if any, downtime running that setup if the DDs who pulled hate could pass it around and sub ninja. Power leveling really made little impact on such a group, the only thing is that groups like that weren't the norm, sadly.


Anyway, in terms of power leveling in FFXIV... I don't think it's really that bad anyway. Leveling fast isn't actually a bad thing for anyone except low rank crafters. They get the shaft in a number of ways anyhow though...

[feint2021]

Why doesn't SE just give us all rank 50 battle classes. We clearly don't have to work for it anymore.

[Neptune]

Why doesn't SE just give us all rank 50 battle classes. We clearly don't have to work for it anymore.

I just want to point out to those of you making comments like these that you are completely devoid of integrity in this. If you had integrity, you would exercise the option of taking the hard path, but instead you choose the easy and blame others for not forcing your hand. You do not deserve any effort from the dev team towards your entertainment since you are taking what's right there in front of you and ruining it yourself, like a spoiled little kid that breaks its toys because its upset.

[Zenaku]

I just want to point out to those of you making comments like these that you are completely devoid of integrity in this. If you had integrity, you would exercise the option of taking the hard path, but instead you choose the easy and blame others for not forcing your hand. You do not deserve any effort from the dev team towards your entertainment since you are taking what's right there in front of you and ruining it yourself, like a spoiled little kid that breaks its toys because its upset.

Once again when PL become main steam no one going to want to party which then mean other players have to A: Solo or B: get a powerlevel.

[BloodPact]

Once again when PL become main steam no one going to want to party which then mean other players have to A: Solo or B: get a powerlevel.

You are stating your opinion as if it was a fact. I´m sure there are people who will still want to party. Not everyone on the server has a PLer and those who do don´t have the person standing there 24/7 waiting for him to decide to get some exp.